Saturday, May 9, 2009

Americans, please wash hands before criticizing Obama

Friday, May 8th 2009

New Rule: Now that we've answered his call to wash our hands, President Obama must continue to tell us how to live. Last week, when America was faced with the pan-global swine flu omega death plague, the President went on TV and told people to wash their hands, and experts tell us this made a big difference, which augurs well for next month's "National Wipe Your Butt Day." Next week, in a fireside chat, he'll tell us not to put a fork in the toaster.

It's sad that the leader of the free world had to call a live press conference to tell his nation of clueless nitwits that employees must wash hands before returning to work. If that's not the "Forrest Gump-ification" of America, I don't know what is. Feeling wet, America? Why not try new, "Coming in from the Rain"?

You may think I'm blowing this out of proportion, but this plea from Obama - you know, the "Audacity of Soap" - was the first specific thing a President has asked the American people to actually do in decades. Unless you count "go shopping." Hopefully it will open the door to other, slightly weightier suggestions from the President.

So please, Mr. President, tell us to turn the lights off when we leave the room. Tell us not to buy crap we don't need and can't afford. Tell us to lay off the Ring Dings and Cheese Nips, and think twice before dating a stranger we meet on craigslist. For God's sake, tell people to read a newspaper. Not just to save the newspaper industry - though Lord knows I'd miss my Daily Jumble - but because having a public that actually knows something is our best defense against ever again electing a President who knows nothing.

There's a name for people who do the right thing for their country, even if it involves sacrifice. And no, it's not "socialists." It's "patriots." We all know the modern definition of a patriot: It's the person who pays the least taxes and listens to the most A.M. radio. But that wasn't what it always meant.

Patriots want their fellow citizens to be able to go to the hospital. They want to make sure no one sells them bread made out of Chinese skulls. They want a country where the deer and the antelope can still play - and not just so Sarah Palin can shoot them from a helicopter. Patriots want to burn less coal and buy less oil. Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House roof and Ronald Reagan had them removed. You've heard of "opposite marriage"? This is "opposite patriotism."

Rush Limbaugh celebrated this Earth Day by praising coal-fired power plants and the plastic bag, while Glenn Beck cheered a man on while he cut down trees.

During the campaign, Obama suggested that one simple thing Americans could do to help with fuel-efficiency was check their car's tire pressure. And Republicans freaked, because to them, every suggestion for the common good is a direct attack on their personal liberty, and it's unpatriotic to interfere with anyone's God-given right to be big, dumb and selfish.

When the President suggests things that will help the greater good, that's not a slight against your fragile manhood. I know, you're a rugged individualist. But you're not - you're just a schmuck.

Going back to Reagan, all of our leaders have predictably and reliably told us that government is always the problem, never you my precious, perfect American citizen. You are always perfect just the way you are, like a precious little snowflake. A beautiful, precious, 350-pound, pig-ignorant snowflake.

-Bill Maher

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ZenGrouch said...

Lens, et al.

Lauren is a psychotic lair, who refuses to respond to questions that chip away at his/her claims of grandeur.

I've been ignoring him/her, yet it/he/she keeps calling me out for some reason, while ignoring all questions.

Seriously, wouldn't it be best to ignore this person who has shown us a bit of who he/she is, and expects anyone to believe...

***me? off the top of my head? filmed two documentaries in africa and asia (currently getting int'l fame) about health issues (agent orange in vietnam, malaria in ghana)***Common, this pathetic fuck can't even find his/her shift key, and seems to think it's got my number cuz I'm fat and hairy...

Anonymous said...

"Brain Damage"

The lunatic is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the loonies on the path
The lunatic is in the hall
The lunatics are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more
And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'till I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.
And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvellous! HaHaHa!"

Anonymous said...

Zen,

If I told him he wouldn't believe me anyway.

I figure he was taunting me because I tore down his socialist tent last night. I wanted to see at what point he would snap...

As for the republicans, they killed Pablo and probably Che, but not the Nicotine Syndicate. They probably killed Pablo so Carlos could work for Jeb.

I think they tortured the 'enemy combatants' so that they would not give up as fast as they did in '91. This war was brought to you by Ozzy's warpigs.

Either way the facade is worn out.

The DNC should propose that the RNC rename their party "The Party of Death and Privilege".

Lauren Perry said...

gotta love hypocrites, especially you guys - you can relate:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104189678&sc=fb&cc=fp

Anonymous said...

After deciding that it is not in the best interest of the USA to release the torture photos, Obama decided to nationalize Fox News just to shut it down, on the grounds that it is torture.

Cyd said...

Isn't it wonderful to bear witness to Obama's complete transformation into an invertebrate? LMAO

The lunatic lapdogs going along with every contradiction o his is a sight to behold as well. How pathetic they have this spineless, ignorant toad changing his "mind" at the drop of a hat.

Why is this lunatic, ZenTurd, still rambling on about absolutely nothing?

ZenGrouch said...

Cyd brings up a good point, in that he believes Obama to be spineless for CHANGING HIS MIND!

Yes, how cowardly to make a decision, then change his mind after hearing good arguments counter to his previous beliefs!

Yeah! What a fucking ASSHOLE!

YOU'LL NEVER CATCH A REPUBLICAN LISTENING TO LOGIC ONCE HIS LITTLE MIND IS MADE UP!

***Cyd, I hear ya' momma callin, go on home now son***

ZenGrouch said...

"Why is this lunatic, ZenTurd, still rambling on about absolutely nothing?"...

...but do hurry back, I've missed you, my little squeeky chew toy!

ZenGrouch said...

*** In Ehrman's latest book, "Jesus, Interrupted," he concludes:

Doctrines such as the divinity of Jesus and heaven and hell are not based on anything Jesus or his earlier followers said.

At least 19 of the 27 books in the New Testament are forgeries.

Believing the Bible is infallible is not a condition for being a Christian.***
...

Ohh, the professor and best selling author who said the above, sounds like he has a hard on for Jesus!


This was from a CNN article at:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/05/15/bible.critic/index.html

ZenGrouch said...

***Ehrman: There was no resurrection***...

Yep, that's what the professor said in the CNN article.

And that makes sense to me.

Think about it, after Jesus died and then supposedly came back from the dead, Doubting Thomas, someone who spent a lot of time with the guy, didn't recognize Jesus.

Sounds like some bum trying to get a free meal, came up to the disciples and said, "Here I am boys, back from a long weekend at Atlantic City... Let me tell ya' I died. No really, I'm back from the dead!"

So, everyone is high fivin' the guy going, "Yeah, Jesus, OK..."

Then St. Thomas comes up and says, "Just who in the fuck is this guy?"

"I'm Jesus motherfucker, death just changed my face an shit..."

"No you are not Jesus!"

Now all the other disciples are telling Thomas how they can milk this thing and until the real Jesus returns from the dead, to just go along with it.

So they fed the bum, and sent him on his way back to heaven, so he can sit at the right hand of God, like that's a big fucking deal. Yeah, Jesus is a metaphysical lap dog.

Anyway, Thomas finally said, "Yeah, why the fuck not, you're Jesus and I'm not..."

The bible is so full of shit...

South34 said...

It's so good Bill! I should bend on my knees and say Alleluia! but sorry I'm not Blond! Lol and I don't pray!

But I have to say I just Love it! You are the only one with the guts to say the truth. The first time I heard you I couldn't believe it! Finally someone was what they called "politically incorrect". I was wondering who is this guy? where is he from? He has to be from an other country or even an other planet! Bill thank you so much! When I'm talking about real issues with people I understand very fast that somehow it will be better for everybody if I was saying nothing or just talk about "Dance with the stars" or something like that!Sorry I'm watching Bill Maher! So really nobody wants to know what 's going on? Last time my husband received an email with a type of anti-Obama joke, I remember it was ending by: "So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 10 weeks -- so you'll have three years and nine-and-a-half months to come up with an answer."
I just answer that person "He is cleaning the shit left by Bush and 4 years won't be enough!' I received the habitual answer "What does she know she is French!" so here was my answer:
Sometimes I wish I just can explain why I think that way, so here I am:
When I arrived 10 years ago, I have such an idea of America that I though that everything was just the American Dream and nothing needed to be changed certainly not becoming a socialist country, because in France it was too much! I was far from the reality organizing Tours for French Tourists and knowing nobody here.
I was lucky to live in Scottsdale which is not representative at all of America with all these beautiful resorts, golf courses and luxury cars at each and every corner. Helene, my daughter who was in a public school was the first one to tell me that the picture wasn't that great because she saw her friends and their family struggling with their everyday life.

It took me 10 years to understand our differences, our culture and what it is to live in a capitalist country. I realized how great it is to have a beautiful house, a brand new car, going out, restaurants etc... I know this is certainly not what I will have maybe in France. But after all I also realized that I permanently hear people wondering how they will pay the college for their kids - how the grand-ma will keep up and find money every month for her pills - or the people who lost their job now can't even afford the cobra insurance and may have to pass on there chemo treatment because they also need to put food on the table. I've heard about American's going to Mexico to have their dental work done and to purchase their medications because they can't afford it here. It goes on and on and everyone knows it but does nothing to make it better. How is this possible in a country like the US?

I even found an add in a magazine advertising that way" Before I used to skip my doses, now thanks to ... I can afford it and even save money' I found this very sad and scary that there are so many in that situation that it's even use for marketing, what a shame. People risk their life more and more arrived at the emergency because they are skipping their dose of insulin. I do know that the French or European's in general don't skip their dose of pills due to the fact they can't afford them. I know that old people don't have to be greeting people at the entrance of a store in order to have some type of health insurance coverage. I know that my parents who were middle class workers don't have to worry for their surgeries or treatment. I also know that the parents in France and Europe don't have to worry how to get $40,000 a year for college because education is free for all that want to attend!
Most of the people will ask "so why does everybody want to come here?" I 'm not the right one to answer as my Tour company could have been in Australia or anywhere but ended up here. But I think a lot of people come here from Europe looking for the opportunity of succeeding. There is no question about it if you succeed in the US you can succeed in very big way. And if you have the $$$ then you don't have to worry. You can achieve success here like no where else in the world.

I know that it's a wonderful country here, where the people are working very hard. Nobody can compare unless he knows what's going on somewhere else . In France people take for granted all these benefits and are on strike if anybody even talks about taking away any rights because they fought for longtime ago, this nation who killed their King to stop the abuse and the misery! Here nobody asks for better because they don't know better maybe and fear the change.
It took me 10 years to change my way of seeing the reality and the difference between Capitalism and Socialism and I feel very sad for the average American people who struggle everyday because nothing ever seems to be done for them. The rich get richer and the rest of us..... I understand the difference of our culture, "Go west, young man" they were saying! It was the pursuit of personal success, that built America. Times have changed and Americans should start to watch what's going on in the other 90 % of the world. Health care and education shouldn't be a choice but a right for everyone! And this shouldn't be a question of being Democrat or Republican but a concern for every American, but nobody want to pay for this, certainly not for his neighbor and the good patriot sent his money offshore! In God we trust it is on the $!

It's about time to stop thinking about Me and just Me now. If the US doesn't improve the health care system , the education and a way to take care of our environmen,t the future generation will be toothless, uneducated and wearing mask! Certainly not able to be competitive with other countries where education is a priority and has been for many years. United States is the "only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not ensure that all citizens have coverage.And the one who create less college graduate than any other country." There's something definately wrong with this picture!

I don't know if Obama or someone else is the answer but Iat least he is the only one who start to talk and act for the Americans even if unfortunately a lot still don't understand that. I think that it's about time to think differently and to start making changes that will improve the life of the people and the future of our children.

ZenGrouch said...

""She is a trivial politician, viciously using partisanship for the narrowest of purposes, and she dishonors the Congress by her behavior," Gingrich also said in the blistering interview."...

This is SO funny coming from Newtie!

Anonymous said...

Zen, I read the book & saw the movie. I like this part that 2000 years of censorship missed.

The Jews asked Jesus if he was the reincarnation of Elijah, and Jesus said no, John the Baptist is the reincarnation of Elijah.

I thought Lucas & Spielberg did the ending better.

Point is judiasm & christianity are derivative sects of Hinduism whose roots were wiped out due to war. The Hindu name for Jesus is Kalki and he is the 10th and last incarnation of Vishnu in this cycle. Kalki is at least 5000 years old, probably older than 7000.

Anonymous said...

It is clear now that Nancy Pelosi coerced the Republicans and the CIA commit to torture & other immoral acts against their will.

The remaining ultra conservative republicans should rename the new party the "Christian Taliban".

This rear view torture during wartime flashbang is just a decoy to take the focus away from the more serious and ongoing abuses of the domestic surveillance / dissident purge programs.

Apparently we did not make the proper example of Nixon, Liddy, North and Poindexter. Their precedent can not be used to justify equivalent criminal acts, except by the prosecution as an argument for stiffer court decisions for the previous administration & warpig council.

ZenGrouch said...

"Apparently we did not make the proper example of Nixon, Liddy, North and Poindexter."...

Let's not forget Big Daddy Bush and Poopie Pants Reagan. Those two fuckwads should have died in jail.

And you're right about the bruhaha being smoke 'n mirrors.

Imagine Newt, having never seen anything as despicable as this crud, in his entire career in politics.

That's just laughable, and I thank him for speaking his tiny little mind.

He seriously is very amusing to me lately.

And Cheney is like a clown running from talk show to talk show, like he's somebody anyone should be listening to.

Fuck! Maybe they got Cheney and Newt out there making fools out of themselves, to make Rush look like the voice of reason!!!

God I love this...

Anonymous said...

A toad named Newt and the contract on America...

As for the dink, Cheney
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

1000 Prayers said...

In general, I feel it is selfish and childish for students to protest commencement speeches of any kind. Why ruin the moment for students who just want to be honored?

If Notre Dame students and Arizona State students do not believe that becoming the first African-American president is a "significant achievement", then I think the entire class of 2009 of both schools should not receive their degrees.

Let's face it, this is not about acheivement, not about religion, nor about politics. Both schools are notirious for discriminating against African-Americans. That's why whenever you see students at these schools talking about this issue, for or against, are always Caucasian. There are not African-American population is pretty much non-existent. If they do exist, they would be stigmatized for "going against the grain."

It's about race. Period. That's why Arizona declined to be the first university to give an honorary degree to the first African-American president. Only a racist students, like those in Notre Dame, would try to disrupt a commencement given by an African-American.

Flunk them all for being racists.

Anonymous said...

Bill,

Richard Brookhiser's explaination about how medical marijuana helped in his cancer treatment was a solid testimonial. Look kids, hippies have lots of fun!

Its good for PMS too. Hey Palin spooks - be sure to pass this tip on to the White Witch, m'k?

Here is a nice not ever for corporate broadcast history lesson for a stony weekend:
The 14 hour Technicolor Dream

And here is a story about CIA lies and torture - straight out of the CIA records that George HW Bush failed to destroy in his DCI shredding party. History repeats itself... I especially like the story about the Republican congressman who had his wife institutionalized and experimented on like a rat; its so fucking evil! So watch your backs Republican wives, y'hear? You too, Nancy... imop the 1st thing we should do is shut down the CIA & riegn in the DIA & NSA, as they have so totally abused the authority granted to them by congress. Someone is finally going down for this; its them or you, Nancy.
The Search For the Manchurian Caqndidate

Just to round out this short course in things your government doesn't want you to know, here is an authoritative account of what really happened. Be sure to note how many spies the CIA & FBI claimed to have on payroll...
Acid Dreams

Bill, maybe next week Pastor-Doctor Jimmy Dale Purvis will open a medical marijuana dispensery?

peas

Anonymous said...

Pastor Purvis Pornographic Massage Parlor: Where cutjobs work off the price of their new titties! (+30% for the IRV fuzz, who are worse than Rampart)

Anonymous said...

Here is another obscured work:
The Man Who Turned On The World

Be sure to scope this most excellent website, hosted overseas where it can't be attacked by censors and idiots with power.

Anyone Seen Dick? I think he needs adult supervision...

Anonymous said...

While we are listing American political criminals, lets not forget that mass murderer of innocent American men, women and children, Janet Reno.

Whatever happened to the Whitewater Witnesses? ...now that Hilly is back, maybe this kind of clean up is what the Republicans are worried about. Nice...

Anonymous said...

Oh but didn't you know it's okay for the left to murder, lie, cheat and steal but if one Republican pisses off the toilet by one single drop, they are the scum of the earth?

At least they aren't fat, hairy, ugly bastards who never get off their couch eating with their cat!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...

I think it's great that we have a president who is able to talk down to the dumbest of us, without making us feel like Republicans...

This could start a new trend, and eliminate 92% of the Republican voting base, if Obama can just turn the dumb fucks, and make them see the light.




The light is now showing and come 2010, you will be crying a river bitching an moaning....Oh Fook, they have control again!

You can thank our inexperienced, who never ran anything but Acorn President for that!!!!



God I Love this country and that is the difference between your hairy fat ass and mine!!!!

I Love My Country!

mike m said...

IT,

Still on that ACORN thing? You dumbass. Check your facts. Obama never ran ACORN. You're not even in touch with what the right wing media is saying. Check out the article by Stanly Kurtz for The National Review.

I can admit some of ACORN's tactics are a bit over the edge,
their agenda is not anti-American Socialism. Just anti- Heritage Foundation trickle down, protect the rich, philosophy. You know you should really check this shit out before making an ass of yourself.

- Obama was lead attorney for ACORN for the Illinois Motor Voter Bill.
- Obama worked with ACORN to have asbestos removed from buildings on the South Side of Chicago.

All other allegations are tenuous, at best.

ACORN organizes citizen action committees to get peoples voices heard. As opposed to Political Action Committees, that work for large institutions. Yes, most of the places they work in are predominately minority neighborhoods. So what? So - those people don't deserve to have their voices heard? Is it anti-American to help the downtrodden? It's certainly not anti-Christian. Those people don't have the financial resources, so they must rely on the kindness of strangers. And you never answered my question about how much charity work you do. Yeah, you love your country. But you hate people who are less fortunate than yourself. Try reading The New Testament in your Bible!
Actually, I think you are a scared little man. Scared that all those oppressed minorities will gain more and more power until the day when they will be able to "make the white man pay". You're such a coward.

mike m said...

Clarification - two two connections I made are still allegations, I believe. Obama didn't work directly with ACORN, just with Hazel Johnson.
And it was Obama's lawfirm that did legal work for ACORN. But I'll concede these two. Motor Voter and asbestos removal will destroy this great nation of ours!

ZenGrouch said...

"The former presidential adviser declined comment as he left the interview, but a spokeswoman for his lawyer said Rove cooperated and ***tried*** to answer the prosecutor's questions.

Dannehy's inquiry follows an earlier Justice Department inquiry in which Rove and other Republican officials refused to cooperate. That investigation concluded that political considerations played a role in the firings of as many as four prosecutors."
...

That's funny! "Rove triiiiied to answer questions..."

Let me guess, failing memory?

Fear of jailhouse anal rape?

ZenGrouch said...

Has that fuckwit G.W. managed to drink himself to death yet?

I'll bet they'll find him half eaten by Barney.

ZenGrouch said...

"Obama's Commencement Address Sparks Protests

by Scott Horsley

NPR.org, May 17, 2009 · President Obama delivered the commencement address Sunday afternoon at the University of Notre Dame amid protests from anti-abortion activists who say the Catholic university was wrong to invite him."
...

Don't those assholes know that our country was founded with religious freedom, which includes freedom from religion, as a major part of the foundation?

If they don't like it, they should move their bible thumping dumb asses to Mexico!

ZenGrouch said...

SWEET JESUS ON A CROSS!

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER AND FUNNIER!

WASHINGTON (CNN) – As the Republican Party struggles to right itself after being caught up in rough political seas, House Minority Leader John Boehner said Sunday a slew of recent and sometimes controversial comments and media appearances by a trio of high-profile Republicans is helping his struggling party.

“Having these voices out there, it doesn’t hurt us, it helps us,” Boehner told CNN’s John King on State of the Union when asked about former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

“If we’re going to show the American people that we’ve got a better way forward, having a chorus of voices out there, I think is helpful to our effort,” added the Ohio Republican.
...

This shit is better than a *Far Side* calendar where you get a new *hilarious* cartoon every day!

And FAR funnier!

***SUCK ON IT NEOCON FOOLS!
SUCK IT HARD!!!***

ZenGrouch said...

...let me guess

Cheney is Moe
Newt is Larry
Rush is Curly

Takin' it on the road!

ZenGrouch said...

Yeah, I know...

I'm fat and I eat cat food.

Ever try cat food mother fucker! It comes off the same line as human tuna, they just change the labels, and aren't as careful with the fins and scales.

Anonymous said...

Brave New World Order Prophecy Follow UP
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Anonymous said...

Anyone Seen Dick? He's wandering around DC, thinking that his best shot at revising his history is to get shot by parties who wish to shut him up.

That, or engineering a coup. I don't think he's got the personality for it.

Cyd said...

ZenTurd writes:

Cyd brings up a good point, in that he believes Obama to be spineless for CHANGING HIS MIND!

Yes, how cowardly to make a decision, then change his mind after hearing good arguments counter to his previous beliefs!

Yeah! What a fucking ASSHOLE!
...

Oh ZenTurd, as if right on cue, you chimed in like the drug addled zealot that you are and I predicted. Thanks for not letting me down as at least we have some things left we can rely on. The seasons, the atomic clock, you behaving irrationally, embarrassingly with your out of touch imbecile shtick. Though in reality, no shtick at all.

"The Obama", as I've seen him referred to and I have decided to use from here on out, is not a person who simply changes his mind. He is a moron who is able to only give a good speech as long as he is reading it. His only promise on the campaign trail he has kept is the dog he bought for his girls. That's about it! Do we need to itemize all the things he backtracked on and went in line with the Bush administration on? Funny how that is nowhere to be seen in the "respectable media".

No, he is no weigher of arguments and decides which has most merit. He is a political charlatan moron that has been promoted way past his level of competence. People see the real him, make no mistake about that. I can't wait till the economy hits the real sh*tter and he won't be using the Bush scapegoat any longer. Though, knowing the empty suit that he is, he just may try after he "hears the arguments for and against" using Bush just one more time! LMAO

Anonymous said...

I am concerned that Obama changed his mind about his campaign promises:

1. Bring the troops home on day 1.
2. End torture as a military expedient.
3. Close Guantanamo - not just relocate the poor dumb fucks to another country where noone is looking.
4. Transparency in government.

and his pre-election decisions to protect ATT from prosecution for spying on Americans - after he said he would not - and also to renew the USA PAtriot Act - after he said he would not - is not the change he promised.

So if he lied to get elected, feel free to feel betrayed, and feel free to cya.


The torture pix? No problem, his decision makes sense. These other

Anonymous said...

(cut off)

material concerns are vital.

WTF happened to abiding by the constitution and rule of law?

Where is my fucking tax money going!?

Anonymous said...

cyd,

Next time you have a thought, examine it. You migth consider flushing it before you wipe it on your keyboard.

...and wash your hands.

ZenGrouch said...

"He is a moron who is able to only give a good speech as long as he is reading it."...


Yeah, you got me there.

Compared to Bush, Obama just can't think on his feet and comes off like an uneducated fool.

...well, to those with a 4th grade vocabulary maybe.

You son are as funny as Cheyen, Limbaugh and Rush all put together Stooge slappin' each other for breaking the Party.

Obama is a brilliant orator, and if you can't see that, and I'm sure you really believe Bush is better, then you are par for the course in the Republicunt party.

Just had another vision of the imbecilic threesome, with Rove thrown as Gilligan on the USS Minnow!

Ship of FOOLS!

"He is a political charlatan moron that has been promoted way past his level of competence."...

You know...

I never heard you chime in when your buddy *Crusader* was going on about how Blacks are genetically inferior to whitie!

Look, as far as your comments about Obama using Bush as a scapegoat, give me one reference to back up your stupid lie.

Obama doesn't have to use Bush as a scapegoat, because everyone knows Bush for what he is, and what he's responsible for.

THAT's a major reason the Republicunts find themselves soooo fucked!

It's really laughable!

I mean, I'm not rolling on the floor like you, but I do have several healthy laughs a day at the expense of the Republican't party.

Sooooo VERY fucked!

And the sad thing is, nobody has to bring up G.W. *I can't get fooled again* Bush!

His cowardly acts speak for themselves!

That little rascal has crawled down a very deep hole, with some cheap bourbon and his dog Barney, who is undoubtedly his only friend in the world, and is trying to drink himself into a coma or death. Because, even as stupid as that cocksucking, motherfucker is, HE too realizes that he fucked this country up in historic fashion.

All his followers can do at this point is say, "In 100 years WE WILL BE VINDICATED!"

I LOVE it when they say that!

For the likes of YOU to say ANYTHING against Obama, makes me feeeeel gooood all over!

Thank you, thank you very much!

Hurry back... don't be a stranger!

ZenGrouch said...

Speaking of *funny* I watched a portion of Dennis Miller on the Tonight Show last week...

Sure he was spewing his normal right-wing-nut bull shit, that use to really piss me off.

But this time, he came off as being really funny, making me laugh out loud!

I think what makes it all so funny is now that Bush is out of the way, and Obama is cleaning up the mess, I can laugh at the mess, and don't have to think too much about the thousands of U.S. soldiers Bush is responsible for murdering, through his flat out lies.

***...da' jig is up Righties! You make me laugh again!***

ZenGrouch said...

"Oh ZenTurd, as if right on cue, you chimed in like the drug addled zealot that you are and I predicted."...

Hey! I got your Adler right here!

No seriously, I'm not trying to hurry you up or anything like that, cuz we all know you got a productive life, and can't spend too much time here!

I'm sure nobody suspects that it takes you so long to respond, because you're not too bright, and typing out a response isn't done without much effort and a Thesaurus.

Cyd said...

The only things truly funny are your psychotic segues from whatever is being discussed, and we know how difficult it is for you to follow any train of thought due to massive amounts of psychedelics leading to atrophy of both, brain and balls. Hence your inept oratory masturbation on display here and we can only deduce this ineptitude transcends other aspects of your pitiful "life".

ZenTurd in a nutshell:

Sky is blue - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.
Water is wet - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.
Dirt is dry - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.
Martians have landed - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.
Obama is a moron - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.
Biden is senile - Bush's fault...fuck..fuck..Republicunts.

And so on...

Quite the arsenal, even if I say so myself. Another funny is your attempted swipe that I did not respond quick enough to your lunatic ramblings. LOL Why YES, it IS because I do lead a productive life you brain dead twit. If I didn't, I would be here calling myself ZenTurd and putting up 75% of the comments because I would not have anything better to do and I could not organize my thoughts into one concise comment. DUH! LOL!!

Here's a news flash, ZenTurd, ready? This is not a ball game where we have two teams and either one or the other wins. Get me? Again in different vernacular, it is not a zero sum game where either Bush is smart or The Obama is. You see, in the real world BOTH can be morons and in the real world BOTH are morons. Watching The Obama master the position of POTUS, I would venture to guess he is a much bigger moron than Bush. Bush was simply inarticulate, though he was at least man enough to allow his records to be open to the public, unlike the Affirmative Action Prez we have in the WH now. The Obama must be hiding all his straight A's and he doesn't want to appear a braggart, right ZenTurd? LMAO!!

Say, maybe you can rattle off The Obama's list of qualifications to be POTUS for us...here let me start it off...

* He's black...

OK, fill in the rest and NOOOOOO, Bush..fuck..fuck..Republicunts is not one of his qualifications.

Cyd said...

Distorted Lens,

Will do since you say so. I would hate to sully the great Magnum Opii that are churned out by you two with my piddly two cents. You and the Turd have me with mouth agape at what you two consider "insight". Honest!

ZenGrouch said...

"Here's a news flash, ZenTurd, ready? This is not a ball game where we have two teams and either one or the other wins. Get me?"...

It's not a game, only because the party of *NO!* lost...

40 to 60!

So, I guess in your ramblings about *ME* derailing the intelligent discussions here, you forgot all about backing up your Republicunt Stupid comment about Obama using Bush as a scapegoat?

Keep up the good work Zippy...

Funny stuff, ranting about how this isn't a game, until all of the right wing nut dirty tricks fizzled, leaving you cold, lonely AND BEATEN!!!

And sore losers to boot!

Look at Minnesota! The right can't admit defeat, litigious bastards, eh?

***WHOO-HAA! GO BLUE!***

ZenGrouch said...

"You and the Turd have me with mouth agape"...

mouth agape...

...slack jawed from humiliating defeat after humiliating defeat, both here and where it matters, in the voting booths across AMERICA!

The world is once again laughing at the Right Wing Nuts!

Cyd said...

Delusion of Grandeur Turd thinks, by magic, if he states something it becomes truth. Much like the lunatic left and certainly no surprise thanks to his history of "experimentation". No Turd, you have not beaten anything aside from your small, shriveled pecker.

Avoidance does equate to winning, stupid. Understand? Cherry picking and then tangential prattle does not equate to "points", stupid. Understand that? LOL

The Obama is a moron, period. The Obama uses Bush as a scapegoat, probably at the advice of the control freak psycho Emanuel. The Obama can't utter a novel thought if his life was dependent on it. The Obama, aside from being a "Magical Negro" to you empty has beens, has no other qualifications for POTUS. The Obama's fiscal policies will turn the country to sh*t in much less than a "100 years". Probably more like 1.5 to 3 and he will be vilified. Take that to the bank. No amount of "negritude" will save him. LMAO!

These are all facts that you gloss over during your Bush..fuck..fuck..Republicunts drivel.

Cyd said...

Oh yeah, whatever happened to you being...ahem..."bored" with me, Turd? That go out the window along with your short term memory?

Hahahaha!

Cyd said...

Why is The Obama hiding his records, Turd?!?!?! The people want to know!

Is it because he is from Kenya and he barely passed his classes? Would put a big crimp on his "genius" status, wouldn't you say?

Hahahaha!!

ZenGrouch said...

"Avoidance does equate to winning, stupid. Understand? Cherry picking and then tangential prattle does not equate to "points", stupid. Understand that? LOL"...

How original!

The RNC has taken an episode of Seinfeld where George does the opposite of what his instincts tell him to do, and made it an addendum to it's dirty trick play book, that reads:

**Accuse the Left of doing everything we've told **YOU** to do thus far.**

Funny shit! Thanks for making me smile!

"The Obama is a moron, period. The Obama uses Bush as a scapegoat, probably at the advice of the control freak psycho Emanuel."...

Umm, yeaaah...

Now if you could only nail down one example of Obama using Bush as a scapegoat!

...liar, liar, pants of fire!

ZenGrouch said...

"The Obama, aside from being a "Magical Negro" to you empty has beens, has no other qualifications for POTUS."...

I probably shouldn't admit to this...

...but Obama's being Black, is the very tasty chocolate icing on the victory cake!

I'm betting the rate of bleeding ulcers & stomach cancer in Republicunts goes up by 1,000% 3 years from now!

ZenGrouch said...

"No amount of "negritude" will save him. LMAO!"...

Wow!

And you say I'm the one that's trippin' here!

ZenGrouch said...

"Oh yeah, whatever happened to you being...ahem..."bored" with me, Turd?"...

You've become much funnier and fun to play with, my little chew toy.

I suspect that you've handed off your username and password to someone else, who has a bit more going on upstairs.

That would account for your style change...

...either that or you ran out of crack.

ZenGrouch said...

"Why is The Obama hiding his records, Turd?!?!?!"...

Probably because he's not, and you're just passing off another shameless Republicunt lie?

I know better than to ask you to back up your lying words...

Please never go away, cuz, *You're Special!*

Anonymous said...

Zenny, You really need to get off that couch from time to time (maybe the shower?) and mainly lay-off the cat-nip!

cyd, one look at who you are talking to (Zenny) and you would "never" take him serious again (as if you ever did - nobody does.....except mikey!)

still lmao

ZenGrouch said...

OK, since you won't take a hint I.T. I'll respond to you...

...a *pity post* if you will.

Anyway, are the posts where you've been doing everything but offer to suck my cock, that I've been ignoring, an example of the challenging debate Cyd da Shid, has been refering to, that I've been throwing off course.

Ahhh, that felt good.

So be it, if you won't be ignored, I might as well have a little fun with another chew toy, worn out and nearly useless as it is...

Anonymous said...

I forgot this was "your" web-site!

My bad.....

You are so pathetic but, funny!

ZenGrouch said...

"I forgot this was "your" web-site!"...

Well, you certainly have been acting like it's my site, with all of your ignored posts to me...

What are you, one of those Republicunt cocksuckers that won't be ignored?

ZenGrouch said...

Oh, I'm sorry...

Was I suppose to put an LOL, or somethin' smart like that in my last post?

Cyd said...

Now if you could only nail down one example of Obama using Bush as a scapegoat!...

Oh...maybe...The Obama saying "I've inherited the situation" a million times would be my first clue. What about you Turd? What did The Obama think was going to happen when he was campaigning? The entire mess was all going to evaporate and he would start fresh?? LMAO! Don't tell me you are a bigger moron than The Obama? Iz ya, Turd?

In regards to The Obama's qualifications for POTUS, aside from his negritude, the Turd states...

I probably shouldn't admit to this...

...but Obama's being Black, is the very tasty chocolate icing on the victory cake!
...

Aside from the disgustingly warped, homo-erotic sexual innuendo, you're saying that you cannot come up with any qualifications aside from your sexual perversions? Thought so.

In regards to The Obama hiding his transcripts, hiring a team of lawyers to make sure no one gets at them and his birth certificate, the Turd states...

Probably because he's not, and you're just passing off another shameless Republicunt lie?...

Well, easy to clear up. Point to where we can peruse his university transcripts and take a gander at his long form birth certificate where it indicates the hospital where he is born. Thanks and I'll be sure to let the "Republicunts" know that the Turd came through on this one!

Hahahaha!

I.T.: I'm just playing with this idiot. Thankfully, he is the poster child of Maher followers and Obamabots. Otherwise known as fringe lunatics.

ZenGrouch said...

"The Obama saying "I've inherited the situation" a million times would be my first clue."...

Apparently you're too stupid to know the difference in using someone as a scapegoat...

...AND STATING A FACT!

Jesus Christ you are DUMB!

It's soooo funny to watch the Sunday talk shows, where Republicunts are up in arms that Obama hasn't done what he promised to do...

Let's see, he's what, 1/18th the way, into his FIRST TERM!?

Funny... funny... funny...

You assholes expect him to fix everything in his first 100 days, when it took Bush 8 years to fuck things up this bad!

Stupid... stupid... stupid out of touch Republican'ts!

"Aside from the disgustingly warped, homo-erotic sexual innuendo, you're saying that you cannot come up with any qualifications aside from your sexual perversions? Thought so."...

Huh?

"Well, easy to clear up. Point to where we can peruse his university transcripts and take a gander at his long form birth certificate where it indicates the hospital where he is born. Thanks and I'll be sure to let the "Republicunts" know that the Turd came through on this one!"...

Geeze, if you want it that bad, find it yourself.

Probably right there next to Bush's military records...

You are sooo easy...

"Hahahaha!"...

...and delightfully *Special!*

Cyd said...

Ummm...excuse me, brain dead. However, I do believe someone being used as a scapegoat and whether or not it being fact are not mutually exclusive. Are they, brain dead? Noooooo, of course they are not. So...BUZZZZZZZ...you are wrong for the umpteenth million time AND counting!

Let's see, what's next? Oh look, more gems from Brain Dead.

Huh?...

LOL! About the level of intellect you've shown here consistently!

Wait! There's more! Regarding The Obama hiding his school records and birth certificate, you state...

Probably because he's not, and you're just passing off another shameless Republicunt lie?......

After I requested where I can find it since it "is not being hidden", you followed by...

Geeze, if you want it that bad, find it yourself....

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Well, which is it, Brain Dead? If it's so out in the open, why don't we have access to it with a click or two? Why would I need to "find it", Brain Dead?

Naw...Here's how it goes. Either you show me where these records are that are not hidden from the public, or you can admit you are a worthless sycophant liar. Which will it be, liar..err...Brain Dead? Ahhh, forget it, Brain Dead Liar. We all know the truth anyway. No need to make you cry like a baby on top of this shellacking. Oooorrrr, did *I* get the shellacking again?!?!?

HAHAHAHAHA!!

Anonymous said...

OK Cyd,

Then you raise the bar. Stop backing up weak or nonexistent positions that you were taught and trust to be credible with cheap shots and jeers.

Post something here that is worth being picked up by your leaders. Truth is kid, you are probably smarter than them.

At least you're sincere.

Anonymous said...

FYI you can make tea out of catnip. Its got a mild stimulant in it that does work on humans, just not as well as it does on kats.

You can grow catnip, easy. Its medicinal. Your cat will appreciate you all the more.

I imagine that marijuana affects cats as it does us. I had a friend who grew pot & he said he had to keep his cat and his dog away from the garden because they would eat plants. So did the birds... and the opportunistic feeders, and rodents and worms.

Anonymous said...

yes, my friend's cat & dog get along fine. Better negotiators than the overrated, self promoting, insider trading cymian government clerks the world over.

ZenGrouch said...

"I do believe someone being used as a scapegoat and whether or not it being fact are not mutually exclusive."...

Get a dictionary genius!

You're not the scapegoat if you're the reason for the fuck up!

...as Bush most certainly was!

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...
You're not the scapegoat if you're the reason for the fuck up!





And you definitely know a fuck up when you look in the mirror....that is if you get off the couch long enough to look!

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah? I don't see the same thing you do in the distorted lens you use!

Anonymous said...

Imitation Lysol....since you're here, Zenny needs to be sprayed however, the real spray would work much better!

Anonymous said...

GOD TOLD ME TO SKIN YOU ALIVE

Lucky for you, I'm not George doubleWide Bush!

Anonymous said...

Oh no!

I'm shaking so bad right now!

Anonymous said...

As always you miss the point. Georgie allus does what he thinks GOD tells him. On the otherhand I judge for myself the practicality of whatever the fuck my ID would do... then instead do something sane.

I hope you like the taste of dust, you are going to be wishing you tried harder to learn stuff for eons.

Anonymous said...

So many alias's you can't keep up?

Anonymous said...

So much experience that you can only try to follow.

I know the way.

Anonymous said...

To the couch?

Anonymous said...

Yup, I did your mom there.

She was ok, needed some stim to recover from your dads dull wand.

Cyd said...

One last ass kicking before bed and I will leave the Turd to his own...I would say devices, however voices seems more apt here.

Get a dictionary genius!

You're not the scapegoat if you're the reason for the fuck up!
...

Yeah, close but no cigar, Lewinsky or otherwise, Brain Dead.

You see, The Obama constantly blames anything and everything on the previous administration as if to say, it ain't my fault, boss. It was da white guy. Now, I know you have trouble using what little gray matter you have left, however for The Obama to constantly throw blame on Bush makes him an inept lying moron and probably a hypocrite, DESPITE some and maybe even a majority of the mess can be laid at Bush's feet. Why, you ask with a "fugue-ish" gaze? Because The Obama, otherwise known as The Great Orator, The Messiah, The Saviour, The Spock with Sex Appeal came straight out and said to our faces he knew the problems and was going to fix them. If this lying idiot knew the mess, why the back tracking and finger pointing AND scapegoating because NOT ALL the problems are Bush's fault, no matter what your little brain says. We know that the lunatic fringe, ie your friends and family love to blame the entire universe's problems on Bush, however that really isn't the truth, is it Brain Dead? No, it is not. Neither is this financial mess in toto, which The Obama knew how to fix before the election and is now a dumbfounded dope after it. You see now, stupid? You see how real life isn't a zero sum game, unlike your zero IQ brain. Bush can be to blame for some things at the same time Obama scapegoating him for many more things which Bush did not have control over. Did you catch that?! Two things occurring simultaneously! LOL

Anonymous said...

independent_thinker,

I AM YOUR FATHER

Anonymous said...

Cyd, good try but Zenny can't read entire sentences!



And Zenny, you are one sad, lonely sick person! Your mama must be so proud of that one big fart she had!

Cyd said...

Lens, I'm just playing with the mental midget. No one deserves it more than a loud mouthed, hypocrite moron. ZenTurd fits that bill to a T.

As to the weak or non-existent positions you speak of, I am fairly confident that these positions, which I take you to mean The Obama's transcripts and birth certificate, are probably quite damning to The Obama and that is why he is guarding them with his political life. His actions, and I am basing my beliefs on his actions and nothing else, are of a man with something to hide. Otherwise, the documents would have been released and this nagging question of his legitimacy to be POTUS would have ended long ago. Same goes for the transcripts and records from his schools. Not the behaviour of a man with a clean slate.

Cyd said...

I.T.

And Zenny, you are one sad, lonely sick person! Your mama must be so proud of that one big fart she had!...

LOL

True, Zen wasn't even good enough to be a turd from his mama's ass. Only a fart. That must hurt. LOL

Anonymous said...

Zen,

I hope you are laughing as hard as I did over your website. Excellent dude!

ZenGrouch said...

"You see, The Obama constantly blames anything and everything on the previous administration as if to say, it ain't my fault, boss. It was da white guy."...

You're cute when you're cornered, frightened out of your wits and listening to the voices in your head...

*AND* an endless source of free entertainment!

BTW... all those comments about my dear mother really hurt.

Sheesh, what are you guys 12?

Anonymous said...

Cyd

You know where the bar is, now step up. Zen is a multimedia impact; you are just calling him names. He either is way brighter than us, or he spent a lot of time composing his work. His stuff is time sensitive = he's fucking smart.

You are a text based search engine competing with one that can read pictures and audio tracks; you are history.

You just don't know it yet.

The way to global peace is through acts of generosity; the stuff your Christ instructed you to do, that you have not done. Very soon you are going to wish that this nation had been more generous.

ZenGrouch said...

Lens...

If you liked www.zengrouch.com you'll love www.bushfuckedus.com

Anonymous said...

lens said...
Zen is a multimedia impact; you are just calling him names. He either is way brighter than us, or he spent a lot of time composing his work. His stuff is time sensitive = he's fucking smart.





Oh, I have heard it all now....lmao

Zenny does nothing but produce fart material!

Anonymous said...

Wow, you lefty loons sure do like to threaten alot!

Anonymous said...

What threats? What left wing nuts?

For your info induped_tahtahs, I AM YOUR FATHER - whatever drunken binge weak sperm that was!

And I am a libertarian. I was always this: freedom first and at all costs.

I did not threaten you, I merely described the verdict upon you of the next generation.

Now, go back to your TV. It won't teach you anything or challenge you to think.

Anonymous said...

lens said..
I was always this: freedom first and at all costs




hmmmmm......

Anonymous said...

yes brother,

My Freedom. Something that your kind would not permit, nor can you obstruct. No Church, I govern myself.

You think you have something to say, do it now.

Get the hell out of my way!

ZenGrouch said...

"I did not threaten you, I merely described the verdict upon you of the next generation."...

They're like vicious pit bulls, they go ape shit if you make eye contact...

...or present them with the truth.

Anonymous said...

They are like vicious Pekenese. They want to tear out your throat, just not the range.

ZenGrouch said...

Yeah...

They do have that little bitch dog yap thing going on.

ZenGrouch said...

...on the good side, you don't feel bad after punting one of 'em for a field goal.

Anonymous said...

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Anonymous said...

Woof Woof!

Oh, so tough! I am so upset now, I think I'll kill myself because I am not as perfect as you two.

Anonymous said...

yap yap! Do it quietly so as to not disrupt the prayers of the monks, who by doing so, hold intact the world to which you may return.

ZenGrouch said...

I think I'll kill myself, since that comeback of yours cut me to the bone in the most vicious of wounds.

...yawn!

Anonymous said...

I think I'll switch from Guiness - the drink of commons debaters, to indica, the herb of Morpheus.

Just because I'm out of Guiness.

ZenGrouch said...

"WASHINGTON (CNN) – Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele will tell GOP state leaders Tuesday that they must embrace conservative principles, focus their efforts on rebuilding the party and highlight the policy differences between Republican ideals and President Obama's agenda."...


No wonder the Republican'ts can't get a break...

They're too stupid to realize that when you find yourself in a deep hole, YOU STOP DIGGING!

...dumbfucks, funny, funny, dumbfucks

ZenGrouch said...

""The era of apologizing for Republican mistakes of the past is now officially over," Steele will say in a speech to the RNC's 2009 State Chairmen's Meeting, according to excerpts obtained by CNN. "It is done. We have turned the page, we have turned the corner. No more looking in the review mirror. From this point forward, we will focus all of our energies on winning the future."..."

Bwaaaa-Haa-Haa

Flip-Floppin' cocksuckers!

Crusader said...

1000 prayers, just because you don't believe that killing babies is vile doesn'tmean that others don't. I am pro-life all the way, meaning I wouldn't kill an animal, or a baby, or a tree if I don't have to. Pro-choicers like Obama (whom I voted for) made it possible for doctors to kill babies throughout the third trimester. Those babies could be born and live their lives out as healthy human beings. It's murder, plain and simple. Pro-choicers abide by this stupid precept that as long as the kid's in the womb, it's worthless. That's fuckin' stupid. It's sick! That really pisses some people off. Being anti-abortion is not my main cause, but if it were, it would make complete sense to protest Obama at a Catholic University when one of the main political decrees of Catholicism is to be against killing babies. Just as Republicans always default to saying their opponents are anti-American, Democrats and liberals in general default to calling their opponents racists. Racist is the knew word for heretic, and liberals are worse than McCarthy when it comes to blacklisting said heretics.

Cyd said...

lens,

I don't have time to screw around with the moron and you today. Maybe we'll go at it again this weekend or if I have more time. While you and the moron pontificate about minutia, psychosis and a slew of verbal cacophony, I'll be my productive self in order to pay taxes for the Affirmative Action prez to throw down the toilet.

I'm disappointed that you think the Moron is..."fucking smart". That puts you in a bad light and shows your inability to discriminate between useless verbiage and true intelligence. The moron "may" have been "smart" at some point in his useless, pathetic life though that is not how he would be described now by a majority of normal thinking people.

As to me being "the past" etc., I believe that shows your ignorance in history and how it continually repeats itself. I just love the arrogant chest thumping from mental midgets like the moron. Little does he know that all it takes for a complete Liberal/Dem catastrophe to occur is for them to have power. Well here we are with the left in full power. We will see how this pans out. I can ASSURE you, it will end badly for them and for the rest of the country.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts, absolutely. That goes for both parties. The moron thinks conservatives are out of favor forever. Hell, even in ultra liberal Europe, the right nationalist parties are making steady and consistent gains even after one of the craziest egomaniacal leaders caused >50 million deaths just a couple of generations ago. Yeah, you two can keep dreaming of a new ultral loon millenia though in reality that will never happen because it never has happened.

Anonymous said...

Cyd, when you stop moving and take time to think, ask yourself, "Why you are working to accomplish something that you not only don't believe in, but oppose?".

If you are just working to pay your taxes to a government that doesn't represent your interests, then you are a slave.

Slavery is an economic condition.

Maybe you should consider working less and playing more.

You can't get your time back.

Turn on, tune in, drop out. Go read a book.

mike m said...

Obama. Centrist or just another corporate "yes man"? It's beginning to look like, to me, he's just another corporate "yes man", masquerading a "business as usual" band aid, for real, meaningful change. The latest? CAFE, emission standards. With cap and trade dead on arrival in the Congress, I guess he'll just push through another "band aid". Instead of giving money to alternative fuel companies, he'll just give $22 million to Purdue U. for more "research". CAFE standards, at this point in time, are actually just a giveaway to the oil companies. Who the hell cares about CAFE, if cars are still burning petrol? That's all that really matters to the oil companies. B20 biodiesel is still 80% petrol diesel. E85 ethanol? Minor modifications to fuel lines and some seals and gaskets are required. Why not set a standard, requiring auto manufacturers to make the changes in the factory, then all cars will be "flex fuel". How much more money will it cost the consumer if a few feet of fuel line is substituted in the factory? How about allowing aftermarket parts manufacturers to sell E85 conversion kits for older vehicles? There's currently a law against it. No, just CAFE standards. What a fucking joke!!!

Don't even get me started on this bullshit healthcare reform, which is about as useless as "W"s healthcare savings accounts.

Lauren Perry said...

lens,

when you say the only thing to you that matters is freedom,

do you consider yourself completely free?
i mean,
*did you educate yourself (not go to public school)
*do you grow all of your own food
*do you find all of the water you need
*did you build the place you live in by your self

or do you rely on society for these things (among many others)

i mean, where is your "freedom" line drawn?
do you know what it is to be MENTALLY free?
free from ads, from influence, from biases and nationalist pride and, most of all (because it seems like you are not,) are you fee from hatred within your self?

and, last but certainly not least,
didn't you know that even having a SELF is limiting your freedom?

Lauren Perry said...

mike,
of course he's a businessman, he wouldn't be president if he was for giving these companies a harder time. tax hikes against multinational corporations are a joke compared to restructuring of industry systems, such as oil-dependent cars and suburban sprawl. drastic change in these sectors doesn't just drastically diminish their profit, it takes away their place of necessity that they currently hold in modern society.
it would be a shame for them to become old technology, like tape players, wouldn't it...

ZenGrouch said...

"Yeah, you two can keep dreaming of a new ultral loon millenia though in reality that will never happen because it never has happened...."

My oh my!

You certainly did pull a big stinky one out your ass that time sonny boy!

I'm not all that liberal.

It just seems that way, because I despise the Republican party.

The party I belonged to for the majority of my adult voting life.

A party that believes it's best for our pharmaceutical, medical and petrochemical companies to become bloated, while medicine and health care become a luxury for many hard working families.

Yeah, it's silly and an uber liberal dream to expect, what was once without a doubt, the best country on Earth, to have health care that's almost as good as some third world shit holes.

We're NOW way down on the list of 'good things' like health care and public education.

What kind of future can we expect if we allow the despicable Republicunts to go on ignoring what their greed is doing to our country.

We need statesmen, who are concerned about what is best for the PEOPLE of this country, not what's best for business.

Yeah, look at what 8 years of letting businesses make our energy policy and govern themselves has done for the overall health of our country.

Fuck You, ya' idiot piece of shit...

ZenGrouch said...

"That puts you in a bad light and shows your inability to discriminate between useless verbiage and true intelligence..."

Tell ya' what, you airport toilet sperm bank...

I'll come back here with a different moniker, but with a Right leaning kink.

Let's see if you can still spot the idiot, in this little game of 'Whack a' Mole'!

Game on cocksucker.

ZenGrouch said...

"The moron "may" have been "smart" at some point in his useless, pathetic life though that is not how he would be described now by a majority of normal thinking people..."

This sounds more like a way to identify sheep worthy of the Republicunt party.

Right... actual intelligence is determined by consensus...

That worked Soooo well in picking the predecessor of Obama!

Bush is a fuckin' SUPER GENIUS!!!

...ahhh, I *needed* that laugh

Anonymous said...

Lets work to avoid more of THIS, OK kids?

ZenGrouch said...

Criminologist...

Sure, some of the photos at your link are pretty gruesome, but do the heads that were blown off belong to the bad guys or the good guys.

What's the point of the link?

ZenGrouch said...

"OXON HILL, Maryland (CNN) -- Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele declared Tuesday that Republicans will no longer talk about their mistakes..."

It's about fucking time!

I mean, I know the Republicunts are a pack of fuck ups, responsible for crashing this country into a cement bridge abutment...

But come on!

Please for the love of Jesus, STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR MISTAKES!

I'm sick of hearing the Republicans taking responsibility for their major league fuck ups, and shameful actions of the past 8 years!

I mean, I'm gonna shoot myself in the balls if I see Bush on TV one more time begging for forgiveness!

It's getting OLD Republicunts.

Time to turn the corner, turn the page!

**BWAAA-HAA-HAA!!!**

...pussssssies!

wilber said...

You're getting old Grouch.

ZenGrouch said...

If you have something worth saying, spit it out...

...yeah, I thought so

Cyd said...

YSOL?,

If you are just working to pay your taxes to a government that doesn't represent your interests, then you are a slave.

Slavery is an economic condition.

Maybe you should consider working less and playing more.
...

Excellent points, YSOL and I am a slave. A well paid slave with very little debt, but a slave none the less. I would love for hard working and tax paying Americans to restrict tax revenue and cut The Obama and Leviathan off at the balls, though first we must pry ZenTurd's lips off of them as they appear to be permanently affixed in a mouth to ball/ass combination scenario. Once that is accomplished, seeing the collapse of a government that has not been for the people for a very, very long time would be a truly joyous and once in a lifetime occasion.

Thing is, we don't need to do that as the house of cards will come tumbling down within a generation and probably sooner. This spending and the burning of the dollar is unsustainable. We are headed for second world status and some parts will be third world. Hard to believe, but there it is. The Obama is not a saviour, but a darker and dumber version than his predecessors. Nothing more, unfortunately.

Not to mention, getting back to why I work, I like it and enjoy what I do. I don't view it as work.

Cyd said...

I'm not all that liberal.

It just seems that way, because I despise the Republican party.
...

LOL!

Walks like a duck and all that...

I believe you have no idea how crazy and out of touch with reality you sound. You represent the lunatic fringe, Turd. That you fancy yourself "normal" and behave the way you do because you "despise the Republicans" only solidifies your lunacy.

ZenGrouch said...

I *fancy* myself *normal*...

You really are quite the cookie cutter dumb fuck!

Anonymous said...

Zen,

Those heads, all those heads, are other incarnations of my self.

They are also your heads.

I am everyone, and so are you. There is no center, it goes to infinity in all directions, even beyond this time cone.

So I have a very personal protest of all torture and violent crime. Kill with compassion; you are killing yourself.

Kind of makes you wonder what 'god' doubleWide was getting instructions from, huh? Totally psycho...

Anonymous said...

Cyd,

Maybe you have enough personal economic stability to enter local politics. The worst thing that can happen, its not for you; but you may find that you can be your own government.

Then you can sort out the BS from the facts for us all.

Anonymous said...

Grouch, do you really think you are fooling the "smart" people on this thread?


lmao....who's the dumb fuck now?

The Criminologist my ass!


If it looks like shit, smells like shit and flushes like shit?

It's shit! hahahahahaha


I recommend "proof reading" before you click Publish this Comment!

Cyd said...

YSOL?,

Catchy acronym btw. I am not interested in politics; unless I was voted supreme ruler for a couple of months to sort things out. ;) Not interested in rubbing elbows with cheats, liars, and dishonorable pricks.

It's not hard to see what's happening...from an Obama supporter prior to The Big O's spend-a-thon. See here.

Give us your take on matters of the end of the US as we knew her.

Anonymous said...

Cyd

Check this flashback from 1969:
The Capitalist Conspiracy by (insider) Edward Griffin

Google has updates.

I'm not buying into the alarmist propaganda; the 'leaders' are in the rear with the troop whores. Everything they accuse Obama of planning, the last 3 presidents already did.

Hang 'em all!

Brian Macker said...

Let's see.

Obama suggested for the greater good that we crack down on overseas tax shelters while appointing every tax cheat he could find.

Obama suggested that the government shouldn't run up the deficit while running the largest deficit ever.

I can guarantee you that Obama doesn't check his tire pressure. Furthermore if he starts giving us suggestions for the common good like "Wash your hands in the bathroom" I'm going to be sure not to shake his hand because it's most likely he doesn't do that either.

Maher, you're no libertarian. Your a straight liberal.

Anonymous said...

Not ZenGrouch, Mojojojo! How do you like me now?

Science Fiction
Double Feature

mike m said...

I'm working on a job at The Riverfront Aquarium in Camden,NJ. Right next to the old RCA building, where the first phonograph was made. Just a short walk from Campbell's Soup, where the first can of condensed soup was made. Down the street from the corner of Fourth and Royden Sts, where the first bag of crack was sold.

Anonymous said...

Brian Macker!!!

Well said even tho' more is out there!

Bill Maher lost his way a long time ago....once loved him because he "was" truly a Libertarian and I agreed with him most of the time but, that is lost in his hate now, just like his sheep who follow.



come on zenny.....spew those famous words only a mother like yours could teach you!

ZenGrouch said...

I.T.

...you're getting colder, ya' paranoid fuck.

Anonymous said...

I'm not paranoid....what you talking about?

Oh come on, is fuck the best you can do? Call mommy and she'll coach you thru this!

ZenGrouch said...

Geeze I.T.

How classy is it to bring other poster's mothers into the mix?

Jesus and Rush would be proud of you!

Anonymous said...

Oh, this from the master of sleeze who last night said you "had my mother on your couch"!!!

Don't lecture me on class asshole!

Fat, hairy, ugly, looks like they never shower asshole!

mike m said...

Libertarians? Their just a bunch of pot smokers and gun owners that indulge in mental masturbation in between brain farts. I'd rather be a Communist. Commies get laid more. Chicks ain't into Libertarians.
There I go, thinking with my dick again. Although, it did get me through high school.

ZenGrouch said...

"Oh, this from the master of sleeze who last night said you "had my mother on your couch"!!!"Whooo slow down cooz boy, wasn't me that said that...

...must be the voices in your head.

Please tell me you don't do what the voices in your head tell you to do, like maybe fuck your mother up the ass, or anything like that.

She might like it, then you're stuck fucking your mom up the ass whenever you see her for family holidays.

You two would make a lovely centerpiece on the Thanksgiving's Day Table.

And quite the conversation piece.

**Yo' dude that's just wrong! Fucking the old lady before we had a chance to say grace!**

Anonymous said...

The post prior to this one? Proves my point!


Class is a word you will never understand because you have not one ounce of it running thru those cold and vile veins of yours.

Your cat however, has more class. It shits in a box or at least I hope it does!

ZenGrouch said...

My cat shits in your mother's mouth, then teabags the bitch.

***you started it Jocko***

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...
"Whooo slow down cooz boy, wasn't me that said that...



One more thing asshole!!!

I'M NOT A BOY! I AM A FEMALE!

Keep spewing your venom because I am loving every minute of it!

So bring it jocko!!!! Keep showing what a true Man you are!

ZenGrouch said...

"I'M NOT A BOY! I AM A FEMALE!..."

Big deal...

So you strap one on before you fuck your mom up the ass.

mike m said...

Damn, why don't you two just get a fucking room. You are obviously in love with one another.

Anonymous said...

Keep it coming!

Anonymous said...

No mike, just wanting to show who he really is so others may not follow his path.

At least you state logical opinions!

I tried once and it doesn't work so, I'm having fun making him show more of his true colors!

ZenGrouch said...

"Keep it coming!..."

That what she said!

...well, that and pass the gravy

mike m said...

Oh please, you two are like Sam and Diane from Cheers. You purposely infuriate each other due to your sexual frustrations. Go get fucking laid!!!! Pay for it if you have to. Trust me, you'll feel better in the morning.

Anonymous said...

lmao.....but, I don't have to pay for it but Zenny's cat doesn't give out enough so he might have to fork over lots of money just to find someone to come over for service without gagging!

But, they have to find it first!

Anonymous said...

Its not easy having a good time.

Itchy-tahtahs thinks I'm you, Zen.

Itchy, rub hard & you'll get over it.

Anonymous said...

Whenever life gets me down

I remember I have a big dick.

And everything is all better.

Anonymous said...

Bill Maher???

I hope you are enjoying this because I sure am....

lmao

ZenGrouch said...

Mike...

You're reading it wrong...

HOWEVER... now that I know the incestuous relations going on of the lesbian nature, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on their family Christmas videos, where they repeatedly *unwrap* each other under the decked out tree!

Anonymous said...

Les be friends...
Can't we all just get along?!

ZenGrouch said...

"I hope you are enjoying this because I sure am....

lmao
..."

With this sick fucking bitch "lmao" stands for:

***Lickings's Mom's Ass Out***

ZenGrouch said...

Hope I'm not the only one here that thought *The Aristocrats* was funny as hell!

Anonymous said...

Zenny,

I just love it everytime you touch the keyboard! Keep up the good work on showing what a True Moron you are!

Wow, you are sooo smart and I am just flustered thinking about how proud you are for just learning your A B C's!

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...

"I hope you are enjoying this because I sure am....

lmao..."

With this sick fucking bitch "lmao" stands for:

***Lickings's Mom's Ass Out***




Keep it coming, you're on a roll!

ZenGrouch said...

The ABC's your mom taught you are:

***Always Be Chewin'!***

Anonymous said...

How clever! But, small brains can't think fast enough. Stand up and maybe some oxygen can get to them.

ZenGrouch said...

"Keep it coming, you're on a roll!..."

You and others here brought my mom into it days ago.

I ignored it for a while.

Soooo, YOU started it, and NOW, I'm just responding to YOUR posts.

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...

"Keep it coming, you're on a roll!..."

You and others here brought my mom into it days ago.

I ignored it for a while.

Soooo, YOU started it, and NOW, I'm just responding to YOUR posts.




Oh!!! What's the matter? You can dish it out but can't take it?

Anonymous said...

Mommy! Mommeeeeee! I want to go back to the mall! I'm no good! They have big dicks!

Anonymous said...

See, your brain needs oxygen...

Too slow with comebacks!

Stand Up!!!!

ZenGrouch said...

If you don't know the difference in trash talking another poster and bringing their family into the mix...

...then your filthy whore of a Republicunt mother, must not have taught you well while your daddy was corn holin' yo' little butt.

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...

If you don't know the difference in trash talking another poster and bringing their family into the mix...

...then your filthy whore of a Republicunt mother, must not have taught you well while your daddy was corn holin' yo' little butt.




Welcome to the American Dream!

ZenGrouch said...

"Welcome to the American Dream!..."

Is that what your pop tells you when he whips it out...

...well, that and *Call me daddy bitch!*

Anonymous said...

I actually do feel sorry for you Zenny!

and your cats!

Anonymous said...

UN Hieroglyph describing hand washing technique:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15474498/Hand-Washing

Anonymous said...

independent_thingy is a fembot?

Shit! dark, brooding, secretive, prone to violent outbursts, I think I dated you!

ZenGrouch said...

Holy Shit I.T.!

I stand in awe and a little bit ascared o' your quick wit!

You is much too smart for me!

...no seriously, quit slacking off with your boring ass posts, or I'll have to start ignoring your stupid, and *abused* ass.

Anonymous said...

lens said...

independent_thingy is a fembot?

Shit! dark, brooding, secretive, prone to violent outbursts, I think I dated you!



Now that's funny! I'm the dark, brooding one?


lmao

Anonymous said...

ZenGrouch said...
.no seriously, quit slacking off with your boring ass posts, or I'll have to start ignoring your stupid, and *abused* ass.




Then ignore my ass! How smart do you have to be to do that?

Well, in your case, not very!

ZenGrouch said...

"lmao..."

While you're down, cleaning up after daddy, there tell your mom I said *Hello!*

ZenGrouch said...

"Then ignore my ass! How smart do you have to be to do that?..."

Not very...

It's just not as fun when my little squeaky chew toys lose their flavor.

So, pick up the pace or fall by the wayside.

ZenGrouch said...

"independent_thingy is a fembot?..."

I have a feeling that's the claim he/she makes when it gets tired of being called a *stupid mother fucker!*

After a few days of being called a *stupid cunt* it'll claim to have a Johnson...

Anonymous said...

I will never fall by the wayside!

Sticks and stones may break my bones but Zenny's words will never harm me!

Anonymous said...

You may call me any name you wish!

I've seen you!

Anonymous said...

You're getting boring now so, until next time!

Feed the cats!

ZenGrouch said...

"DNC Chairman Tim Kaine penned a letter to Tim Pawlenty on Tuesday, asking the Minnesota Governor to persuade Norm Coleman to concede and, short of that, sign the certification of Al Franken's election once the state's Supreme Court makes its final ruling...."

They know they lost, but they'd rather throw a wrench in the system than admit defeat.

Republicunts are basically despicable.

ZenGrouch said...

"Feed the cats!..."

Thanks!...

...and you go *Eat the Pussy!*

ZenGrouch said...

"You may call me any name you wish!..."

Thanks, I hate typing I.T.

So from now on, you'll be answering to *Stupid Cunt*

Anonymous said...

Feel better?

ZenGrouch said...

"Feel better?..."

Stupid Cunt...

...I'm not your daddy.

mike m said...

I can't believe you two idiots went on all night. Are you both single? Set up a meeting. PLEASE!

Lauren Perry said...

i thought i'd just remind all you idiots of the first post i made on this sad little blog:

Lauren Perry said...

Wow, its good to know that Maher's blog comments have become kindergarten bantering for three (plus) idiots with internet-version microphones - spewing out their own opinion like puke and blocking all sources of information besides those pre-approved to be in agreement with currently held beliefs -

this entire page is the problem with America, from the tug-of-war game with Jesus to the random insults dealing no facts or information whatsoever.... [to the pathetic insults that belong back in middle school]

I bet not one person on this page reads a newspaper, or informs themselves about anything from the "other side." [or about anything at all]

Imagine how much more intelligent and interesting every single post in here would be if you all were just a little smarter, and kinder.
May 11, 2009 7:47 PM

mike m said...

What are you? The post police :)

Imagine how much more intelligent and interesting every single post in here would be if you all were just a little smarter, and kinder.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one



Yeah, and if shit tasted like butter, you could spread it on your toast!

Lauren Perry said...

Yea, pointing out my prediction of your (plural) fallacies is not police work, its elementary my dear mike.
i see these online personalities, and i see no novelty in thought or word, so i am able to judge a stationary state of personality and predict the possible outcomes of situations - if this Grouch is proven wrong on something, he will defend in a certain way, and others will react to him in a certain way
it's cyclical, of course.

anyway, what, is your imagination broken? a tragedy for you, to not be able to conceive of a brighter future than this.

mike m said...

Imagination? I went to high school. In our wonderful school system, imagination is nurtured in grade school. In high school, it's mocked. Even punished in some cases. Our society is based on conformity. Anyone who dares to seriously stray from societal norms is ridiculed, punished and/or institutionalized, or worse.

I try to restrict what imagination I have left to putting together musical notes and chords. And even in music, there are certain norms which must be adhered to which date back all the way to Pythagoras.

Forgive me, my brain is not operating very well today. I've been working nights and my sleep schedule has been disrupted. In fact, I'd love to stay and chat, but I have to leave.

mike m said...

Too many "free thinkers" spoil the soup.

Lauren Perry said...

Just because its *hard* to be an individual with imagination, and yes there's *so much* pressure from our society and culture to conform and not think,
these are no excuses for not breaking free and using thought and imagination like a real human being
i can see the strings breaking already - good, keep going, you're almost there!

ZenGrouch said...

"if this Grouch is proven wrong on something, he will defend in a certain way, and others will react to him in a certain way..."

Lauren...

I honestly believe you to be a pathological liar, who has made up a wonderful little world to live in.

That's cool, but it's insulting for you to expect anyone to buy into your fantasy.

When I've bothered to poke holes into your little world, you ignore them, as you probably should, otherwise, you might have some sort of psychotic episode when presented with the truth.

Now, speaking of truth, here's your chance to show that you're not a liar, on something that doesn't include your beautiful little world.

You said that whenever I'm proved wrong I react in a quite predictable way.

If I've done this on more than one occasion as you say, how about giving me the most blatant example of someone here proving me wrong, where I respond in what you would consider an inappropriate manner.

Ya' see, I'm not saying that I'm not proven wrong, because I'm not crazy enough to believe that I'm always correct, as the Republicunt party and fools such as yourself, who fear the truth, rather than embracing it.

So, unless you're actually a psychotic liar on more levels than the make believe world you've created, show me one or more examples of me being proven wrong, and me responding in "a certain way" that is not willing to accept proof/truth for what it is.

Now I fully expect you to look for that example, because in your little mind you probably believe the trash you spew. But once you can't find it, you'll submerge. Either that or you'll accuse me of playing with words, and lying. Lies that you'll somehow find impossible to point out.

You fear logic and the truth.

Now, prove me wrong and show me where you or anyone has proved me wrong, where the truth drives me ape shit.

I'm hoping at the very least you present *something* so that I'll have an idea of what your warped little mind considers to be actual *proof* of anything.

...that'll shut the dumb fuck psyco up for a while

Best we can hope for is that he/she/it has to prepare for a trip to Antarctica to document the shrinking ice shelf...

Sounds reasonable to me!

ZenGrouch said...

Funny actually...

I've planted the seed for an actual intelligent conversation three times in the past two days, with excerpts from news articles in which the Grand Poo-Baah of the Republicunt part has said some things that I find both telling and hilarious at the same time.

Yet, nobody on either side of the isle has said word one, or attempted to start or carry on an intelligent conversation.

Oh, but you're there Johnny on the spot to read and comment in mostly negative ways on the current state, quantity and quality of conversation here.

We all pretty much deserve what we get...

Lauren Perry said...

well, Grouch, since you asked...

my proof is every single post of yours.
you see, my claim is that you respond in the SAME way every time, and that this particular way of yours blocks you from opening your mind (all of which is very much true)

what is your "way," your "tao" your path? it is one of anger. you respond with so much negativity and bias that it is incredibly easy to see that there will never be a time when you respond to me with something along the lines of "you make a good/intelligent/interesting point" "you are right in such a way, wrong in such a way" etc etc...
your every word is negative, spiteful, and in my head all i hear is a 13-year-old boy taunting a friend in that dumb sing-song voice. there is no way to convince that kind of a mentality of anything - they are set in their ways, as are you.

oh, and your little "seeds" for intelligent conversation? they consist of blurbs from online news feeds that are pretty much irrelevant, uninteresting, and pointless. all you do, all you are, is a relentless acidic pundit clinging to the bits of news from the Republican Party that you can point and laugh at - none of which, in the holistic view, matters one bit.
and your presentation of such info doesn't spark conversation, the same way that listening to a comedian talk about Bush doesn't spark conversation - unless its someone like Bill Hicks, which you could never compare to. you are a shy imitation of such empty commentary...
but, you enjoy it, as a whore who already has every STD in space still enjoys humping crusty whales with a few bucks to spare...

ZenGrouch said...

"...my claim is that you respond in the SAME way every time..."

This was NOT your claim.

You stated that *when proved wrong* I'd respond in a specific way.

So what is it, are you a liar or flat out stupid?

I'm guessing both, with a healthy topping of craaaaaZy!

...ya' verbose, myopic fool!

OK, are you too fucking stupid to figure out how to cut 'n paste?

Probably... anyway, you can use that excuse when you can't quite come up with anything I've said, that would back up the assertion that's only reality is based in the voices in your head.

ZenGrouch said...

I love it when Republicunts get cornered and go psychotic!

They're like Dennis Miller, diggin' into his bag of worn out clichés he paid someone else to write, to muddy the water, while their tiny brains are switched to the *off* position.

When forced to deal with someone who won't be swayed by smoke 'n mirrors to change the subject, they throw everything they got at the problem... Trash on top of trash, with nothing of substance, but the smell.

And I'm guessing, from their propensity to suck strange cock in public toilets, they probably like that smell.

...this shit's going to kill me. I like identifying and fucking with assholes in the real world as much as I enjoy myself here.

Lauren Perry said...

Grouch,
if YOU were verbose in any way whatsoever you'd have read my initial post correctly, and figured out what a "stationary personality" refers to.
There are points i'm making here, my sad little friend, that are not represented in copy-and-pasting single sentences. however, this explains why you view the world so illogically - if you take everything out of context down to one-sentence facts and try to determine information that way, you'll always fail in understanding anything.
this explains perfectly how you read and understand everything i'm saying - you pick out one sentence you dont like and make a counterpoint from one sentence, not from one idea or one thought.
if you really understood anyone, you'd be able to say their idea back to them exactly, and analyze it from there - but you can't even get the understanding part right

poor little hairy man

Lauren Perry said...

oh, and calling me things like "crazy" or a "liar" aren't getting you anywhere.. it's just fluff insults, which is really strange and very sad.
in a college philosophy classroom, where logic is required in statements in order to have logical arguments, you would fail.

Anonymous said...

Click HERE for a little psycho analysis...

ZenGrouch said...

"There are points i'm making here, my sad little friend, that are not represented in copy-and-pasting single sentences...."

So you admit to being a proven liar then?

You made a direct statement.

Claimed that when proven wrong, I react in a certain way.

Come on, admit that you're a stupid liar who crumbles and goes psychotic when shown the truth and I'll let you off the hook, so you can go out and have your meds adjusted accordingly.

ZenGrouch said...

"oh, and calling me things like "crazy" or a "liar" aren't getting you anywhere.. it's just fluff insults, which is really strange and very sad...."

Yet here you are, bruised and battered, sniveling, "You can't hurt me... You can't hurt me... only words... sticks an' stones..."

...you are such a transparent douche bag lying sack of shit!

ZenGrouch said...

"if you really understood anyone, you'd be able to say their idea back to them exactly, and analyze it from there - but you can't even get the understanding part right..."

Well...

I understand you well enough to get inside your head, and fuck with your mind so bad you can't look away if you wanted to.

...otherwise, why waste your precious time on me, when you could be off to Africa making award winning documentaries.

OK, starting to see why you amuse me so much, ya' lying asshole.

Anonymous said...

lmao...Good luck Lauren....

Your beating a dead horse!

I gave up on Zenny long ago because he doesn't know how to have an intelligent debate with anyone but his keyboard, or his cats.

That's why I just like to push his buttons now!

He's a useless cause to Society!


Ok, here comes the names towards me! No class whatsoever!

Lauren Perry said...

well,
i'm not surprised
i mean, you react exactly as i described
it's.. funny enough,
but lame after a while

that link to space ghost was priceless
damn, what happened to the good old cartoons?

ZenGrouch said...

"That's why I just like to push his buttons now!..."

And why not...

A stupid, masochistic mother feltcher such as yourself would have to pay top dollar for this kind of abuse elsewhere.

ZenGrouch said...

"No class whatsoever!..."

Yeah, that's what your preacher man said when you strapped one on, did your mom in front of the church, while all those kids were hunting for Easter Eggs.

ZenGrouch said...

A match made in heaven, a pair of Republicunts, one a stupid cunt, the other a delusional liar!

Hey!

My name is Earl just got shit canned. Maybe you guys could present this idea to NBC and really show your stuff, on ***Dumb Cunt/Psycho Sunday!***

ZenGrouch said...

Speaking of love gone wrong...

Have you heard the latest *dish* on Michael Savage and his romantic link to Rush!

OMG! They're having a HUGE spat! AND IN PUBLIC!!!

"SAVAGE: And yet here in America, I've had some people come to my aid. They see the bigger picture. They're not like [Bill] O'Reilly; they're not like Limbaugh, who's the biggest disappointment of all. Limbaugh has turned out to be the biggest phony of all of them, all of them. Amongst all of them, he is the biggest fraud. Rush Limbaugh is a fraud. When he was accused of the drug usage, I supported him. But that man is a one-way street. It's all about him. He's in it for nobody but himself..."


SWEET JESUS ON A CROSS!!!

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