Thursday, August 20, 2009

HBO Real Time Report: Health Care Protests - Dana Gould



HyperActiveX said...

Duh. Is this a zen post? Or maybe I'm missing the point!

ZenGrouch said...

"Duh. Is this a zen post? Or maybe I'm missing the point!"...

If you're talkin' me when you say Zen post, nope, not mine.

...but I do like that "What the Fuck!"

And yes, you most likely, did miss the point.

ZenGrouch said...
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laura said...

Our poor president, like he doesn't have enough to be stressed about, then he has to deal with these crazy people. I don't have health insurance, and can't remember the last time I did, I don't want some quack touching me anyway, so I take care of myself. Not many know how to do that though. Maybe pig flu will thin the herd this fall, probably not though since the mad scientists will probably come up with a "cure". Nature always finds a way? Well what is it waiting for? It's like the fat, unhealthy people are taking over, I can't even go jogging with out having to risk twisting my ankle jogging around these slow, giggly, dough-balls, hogging up the path that are only at the park to socialize and pretend to be doing something. And these are the ones crying about not having health care and bad-mouthing our dear president. WTF? is right, I say it at least a hundred times a day.

HyperActiveX said...

OK - Clarification: I see the video clip now, but when I first got here there was just the post title and no content (yup, it was just a blank post). Maybe they forgot to post the link or maybe the link was broken and its been fixed now. My comment was in that context. And no, Mr ZenGrouch, it had nothing to do with you.

avantblue said...

Bill Maher is a coward and Dana Gould is a lackey. The umemployment rate is increasing daily, 48 out of 50 states are bankrupt, and the two of you laugh when people are upset about health care. Obama's plan has nothing to do with health's a cost effective outlook you idiots. No where in the bill does it say the mission is to improve health and extend life. This is not a right wing conspiracy...You are a fraud. The economy is going to hell and you two dupes say "well it's just the angry people. The poor people are fine they have hope. Go fuck yourselves you pieces of shit. Don't call yourselves Democrats, call yourselves popular banker's boys. When you get some real balls, mercy on your souls.

Dean Jackson said...
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alina said...

Supporters of the health care bill here in North Carolina found one way to silence the crazy town hall protesters... just mock them!

Louis Duke said...

Great video.

Rob Presley said...

A health care rap.....

The right is wrong
They must be smoking something strong

They can't think logically anymore
They'll send kids to the fog of war for a triple tour
While safe at home making the rest of us poor.

They serve no use,
but for prisoner abuse.

They have no plan to cover every man,
But they do have one senator with a bad fake tan,
If you want something just put money on their outstretched hand.

If you’re on the right,
I wonder how you sleep at night,
With all the people you’re willing to kill,
It must take one huge sleeping pill.

independent_thinker said...

My God! You people are crazy! lmao!

I believe the War is occurring here among ourselves rather than the ones who want us dead! So, so wrong!

Iknit said...

Bill Maher seems to me you need to have a program DEFINING The terms of the health care plan...SINGLE PAYER IS SOOOooo bad... UNLESS it is clear in the Single Payer Policy plan OUT OF STATE DOCTORS ARE NOT COVERED and many of us live in one state and visit doctors in another state nearby... PLEASE DO THE RESEARCH SINGLE PAYER IS NOT THE BEST

independent_thinker said...

I just want to know if I find out I'm terminally ill that I won't die because I have to wait!

I'm not rich, I & hubby pay for great healthcare so, if I find out I have cancer 2 days after the bill is signed, will I recieve the same care?

Has anyone asked this question? I guarantee, there will be strings!

Too said...

The need for an intelligent debate on reforming health care has been eclipsed by our insatiable thirst to gawk at the absurd.  We've been hi-jacked by crazy-stupid people, and the ratings obsessed media has obediently followed...

kenneth scourge said...

hey there -

sick of not seeing enough
representation of the uninsured to combat the lies of the health
care opposers, i made my own 3-minute video. i kept it simple and
pretty unemotional - i just wanted to lay out the facts, from the
perspective of an uninsured working american, and to ask folks
they could deny us the health care we need to continue to
contribute to society.

please view it and distribute it however you wish - the more
people that see this, the better:

Iknit said...

I can guarantee you that BUSH allowed SECURE HORIXONS/UNITED HEALTH CARE to tell a surgeon, to whom I was referred that I DID NOT have insurance for a hysterectomy and I did ... the cancer spread...I may not live the quality of I want (or the next year for that matter) and the same surgeon billed Medicare OVER $1500 for a 5 minute exam no testing and that sux in my opinion. ALSO MEDICARE during the last 8 years PAID for telemarketers to sell the "MANAGED" Medicare REPLACEMENT insurances withour tax dollar.
I have heard Obama and heard him clearly say that IF WE LIKE the INSURANCE THAT WE HAVE NOW we won't need to change...With Bush people did not have that option.. NOW we can't even BEG for brand names to be we make Bush's big business buddies in the generic business please RE-READ what Obama is proposing... I'm a victim and only 61 and struggled with this for a year and a half now... IS NOT fun and I could tell you more horror stories about people I have met along the way...Obama is at least trying to get something real in and the REPUBLICONS are sending out Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh to speak against it...that in itself tells me THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PLAN.... please re-educate your self

ZenGrouch said...

"I guarantee, there will be strings!"...

I'll bet you're delusional enough to actually believe, your "guarantee" is worth more than jack shit.

You sick, stupid fuck!

ZenGrouch said...

"My comment was in that context. And no, Mr ZenGrouch, it had nothing to do with you."...

OK, my bad, since I don't have the copyright on the word "Zen"...

independent_thinker said...


Is everybody a stupid Fuck to you and you are the only smart person on this planet?

You kill me!

Angel Enraged said...

The majority of the American people (according to just about every poll that I have read on the subject) Do NOT want this health care plan - yet, the Dems are going to pass it anyway??????

Whatever happened to the "American People" deciding?

While we see the news coverage of what is deemed "crazy" people spouting a lot of "nonsense" in the town hall meetings, the fact remains that crazy though they may be, they are still Americans, and they deserve to have their say.

No matter how crazy, disenchanted, misinformed, or confused these people may be, they are a part of the American People, and "The American people" have said no, they do not want government controlled healthcare.

Yet, our government just continues on as if they hadn't heard a single thing.

The government doesn't give a crap about you! They are going to do exactly what they want to do regardless of what the "regular people" think.

IMO the government has entirely too much power, and we, the people, are the ones that screwed up, and gave it to them by trusting in them blindly for too many years.

The government (and president) is supposed to work FOR US, not against us. We need to stop viewing (and treating) our president as a king, and start seeing him as he really is - an employee of the people. So stop kissing his rear-end, and see to it that he follows the rules!

We should stop being so passive about what our government does, and we need to start getting pissed off about it.

I was under the impression that the country was supposed to be a democracy, and that our forefathers fought and died for the very freedoms that our government is surely stealing away from us.

I was under the impression that the People of America are supposed to have a say in deciding on the things that have a huge impact on us.

Passing a bill that the American People are clearly opposed to is wrong. It goes against the very foundation this country was built upon.

Those of you who are in agreement with the bill should pay attention to the underlying issue here.

Don't let the idea of getting what you want out of the deal cloud the fact that YOUR government is acting against the wishes of the majority of the People of the United States of America.

Although it is an issue of government controlled universal health care today - it is going to be something far worse tomorrow!

giz81254 said...

It never ceases to amaze me tha American's will pay taxes to fund everything from study of sex habits in the andes mts, to the most blatant business takeover ever funded by taxes and American lives in Iraq/Afghanistan; but won't give themselves the same importance. The goverment pocketbook is OUR pocketbook, and why shouldn't All AMERICANS get something for our tax dollars. It's been 30 yrs of talk and capitulation to big insurance and business, it's time for action. America wake up and take the insurance companies and medical companies out of the debate. Our lives are at stake and you could be one payday away from wishing that we took our rights and demanded health care for all NOW.P.Rowell

ZenGrouch said...

"Is everybody a stupid Fuck to you and you are the only smart person on this planet?"...

Yes... EVERYBODY is a stupid fuck to me, everyone in the known universe...

...Oh, except for *YOU* that is.

Dean Jackson said...

In 1997 NORAD said they insure, "Aircraft flying over our air space are monitored seven days a week, 24 hours a day."

In 2004 the Air Force contradictorily said, "Before 2001, 1st Air Force was charged with keeping an eye on the nation’s borders, usually looking for threats in the form of Russian aircraft skirting too close for comfort to the mainland. In those few hours, the command’s mission went from looking outward to looking inward."

See the 5 articles on NORAD at

independent_thinker said...

ZenGrouch said...

"Is everybody a stupid Fuck to you and you are the only smart person on this planet?"...

Yes... EVERYBODY is a stupid fuck to me, everyone in the known universe...

...Oh, except for *YOU* that is.

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to

You know Zenny, I mess with you cuz your fun!

Too said...

The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects everyone’s freedom of speech and right to peaceably assemble.  However, the Constitution doesn't have any intelligence requirements to exercise those rights….

Dave said...

Fortunately the government already takes care of some people's health care so we can look
at that as an example of what we can expect.

"It is shocking and scandalous even by the VA's own low standards that top officials at the VA would get performance bonuses when there's a backlog of over 600,000 cases," said Hall, chairman of the House Veterans Affairs subcommittee on disability assistance.

Can you imagine the backlog of cases when they take over all of the U.S.? As of 2008 there were 23.6 million veterans and there is a backlog of 600,000 cases. The U.S. population is about 307 million so we might
expect a backlog of 7.8 million cases given that the same wonderful folks will be running the program "with delays averaging 177 days" -can't wait can you!?

Given the amount of money that can be siphoned off of a huge fund like health care you can bet it will get forced upon us and don't be surprised if a subsidiary of Halliburton takes over health care for the

Most people I know don't believe our government will have the funds to pay Social Security in 15 years
so why do we think there will be any funding available for health care even if we pay into it?

Bend over folks!

Iknit said...

if the politicians would stop 'borrowing' from soc sec and Medicare perhaps this mess would not be occurring; other than Bush allowing big businee honchoes to take over (i.e., insurance and pharmaecutical companies) but I can tell you that United Health Care is buying up ins companies and screweing anyone when they can because they were allowed to and that needs to stop... and I would not be battling for my life from cancer when they took it upon themselves to tell a surgeon who had already examined me did not testing that I did not have insurance.. when I did... what a sickening mess in the name of greed in my opinion the republicans are afraid of something working better than what they concockted

i26763 said...

Hey Bill,

As always, caught the show. Good stuff, but please help us out. I was reading American Spectator on line and this is a excert: Since he obviously can't be bothered reading the bills he insists we need to support, Obama might be forgiven for characterizing as a myth something which is not one. Mark Tapscott highlights a report establishing that ObamaCare will cover illegal immigrants.

Among the many claims being made durng the August recess by Democrats from President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, to the lowliest back-bencher is that Obamacare absolutely, positively, cannot possibly ever in a million, zillion years provide coverage to illegal immigrants.

Just this past weekend during his regular Saturday address - devoted to addressing what he called "false claims about reform" - Obama said he wants "an honest debate" on health care reform, "not one dominated by willful misrepresentations and outright distortions."

In what he called the "first myth" being spread by critics of his proposal for a government-run health care system, Obama said they are wrong in claiming illegal immigrants will be covered: "That is not true. Illegal immigrants would not be covered. That idea has not even been on the table." Obama said.

Well, Mr. President, that idea must have been tucked under a stack of background briefing papers over there in the corner of the table because the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says this about H.R. 3200, the Obamacare bill approved just before the recess by the House Energy and Commerce Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA:

"Under H.R. 3200, a 'Health Insurance Exchange' would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option...H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens-whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently-participating in the Exchange."

CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship. So, absent some major amendments to the legislation and a credible, concrete enforcement effort in action, looks like the myth on this issue is the one being spread by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al.

Huh, doeas this mean the wetbacks get covered? Pretty convincing article, but wait, I am reading this voluminious bill and I came across this:

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill:

IN GENERAL.—Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.

I read that to a friend who is an attorney. His exact words were:

Oh, s_ _ t. Read it again. (I did). Holy crap. What that says is anyone who walks in will be covered because they can't ask them anything about themselves.

I am a confused American. Should I beleive the panel that included Dana Gould and yourself and the guy from NBC whose face resembles (and probably his breath, as well)a old unmaintained vagina.

The Dems allowed no one, but NO ONE, including the "other party" to review the mamoth bill before demanding a vote on it.
Plus, they repeatedly (and pruodly) admitted that they hadn't read it either, but we need to trust them into swallowing their ignorant view of what the health bill will do---- and not do.

Yeah, right!

Please provide more qaulifed talking heads on the show. Part of the humor of the show is the collective ignorace which makles humor the bi-product of your show. Your are funny person, Bill.

Iknit said...

hwy 12673 and anyone else who feels he/she must go on 3rd or 4th party information and is too lazy to look up the link HAS THE REAL answers AND NO illegal aliens are not going to be coverd ... i don't understand why Rush and Gingrich don't stop MISinforming

independent_thinker said...


If you disagree with Rush and Newt, why listen?

Iknit said...

independent thinker -- I don't listen to Rush and Newt but they are among those providing the MISinformation... and it gets real old

independent_thinker said...

How do you know if you don't listen?

You rely on Maher for your news?

independent_thinker said...

Do you know what's in the over 1000 page Health care bill? Did you know what was in the over 2000 pages of Stimulus bill that nobody read but passed?

How do you know who is right or who is wrong if you don't weigh the facts before deciding?

Why rush to do something that nobody really knows about? Has this country not prospered and been great all these years? Why is that now, we are the scum of the earth?

independent_thinker said...

Iknit said...

independent thinker -- I don't listen to Rush and Newt but they are among those providing the MISinformation... and it gets real old

And what makes you so damn sure its not MISinformation?

All for One and One for All!

So much for that!

independent_thinker said...

But, as Zengrouch would say (and forgive me for quoting him)

It's the Republicunts and Cunts like you that Fuck up this country!

Well, I just shoved in his tone and I think I hit the nail on the head but, my bad for the language...I don't talk like that..sorry!

Iknit said...

I choose not to listen to them but I did read the real stuff and observe other programs... seems in a way moe than yhou've done gnite

independent_thinker said...

so you are going to believe "our Government" for "everything"?

Open up to the world of News! Then decide for yourself after you have "researched".

That's all I can take tonight! But ask Zenny, I will be back.

Again, do your own research before you believe anyone, including our Government!

Dean Jackson said...

Katrina’s Fourth Anniversary ------

For those of you who still believe that the media pretty much reports the truth, and that the media reported the truth (or close to it) about 9/11, then watch Aaron Broussard (Jefferson Parish President) on September 5, 2005 being interviewed on Meet the Press. Fast forward to 3:10 minutes in the YouTube video below where Broussard says that FEMA officers were cutting down the emergency communication lines days after Katrina blew over:

Did you notice when Aaron Broussard said that FEMA cut the emergency communication lines, Tim Russert ignored that bomb shell revelation?! Russert refused to ask any follow up questions about FEMA cutting Jefferson Parish’s emergency communication lines!

Also, several months after Katrina hit, the National Hurricane Center affirmed that Category 1 -2 winds (74-110 mph) swept over New Orleans, NOT Category 4 or 5 winds:

Now, at the time Katrina was approaching New Orleans, government officials were worried that the New Orleans levee system would not survive a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. There was NEVER any question that the levee system couldn't cope with Category 1 - 2 hurricanes!

In other words, all the reports we were getting from persons living near the levee system saying that the levee was blown up are true!

Now, pay attention to the current newscasts on this fourth anniversary of Katrina. All the commentators talk about Category 4 - 5 winds. They STILL won't tell you that the actual winds that hit New Orleans were Category 1 - 2 winds!

Are you now beginning to understand how the media covers up crimes committed by the Federal government regardless of the political party in power in Washington, DC?

Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief
Washington, DC

mike m said...


Really missing Zenny? Maybe you should write a song about it.

Adopt Zenny.

Dean Jackson said...

I'm not sure how many of you guys know this, but the NTSB came out several years ago with the official flight path of Flight 77 just before it approaches the Pentagon. So what, you ask? Well, the NTSB report contradicts the official narrative of Flight 77 as that aircraft approaches the Pentagon.

We also have Pentagon police officers (Sergeants Lagasse and Brooks) and civilians who place Flight 77 approaching the Pentagon from the NORTH of the Citgo Gas Station. So what, you ask again? Well, the official narrative of Flight 77 places its flight path coming in SOUTH of the Citgo Gas Station! In other words, whatever caused the damage path to the Pentagon's interior (which could only be caused by an aircraft approaching the Pentagon from the SOUTH of the Citgo Gas Station) was NOT Flight 77.

Watch the interviews in the documentary below of the Pentagon police officers and civilians as they destroy not only the official narrative of Flight 77, but also destroy the official 9/11 narrative:

Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief
Washington, DC

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(fade out)

androgenous said...

...left out a refrain at the end:
Oh no,
Oh no, oh no, oh no

Oh no,
Oh no, oh no, oh no

Oh no,
Oh no, oh no, oh no

Oh no,
Oh no, oh no, oh no

She's coming to L.A. yes she's coming to L.A.!
Coming to Zenny!
Gonna cum all over Zenny!

Oh oo, oh oo, thats cool.
Oh oo, oh oo, thats sure cool.

But its the talking and the talking,
The endless goddamn talking,
Got to end!

Oh no,
Oh no, oh no, oh no

Friends of George Cushingberry said...

Free health care and the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit have a common interest in the people. Dana Gould set it out straight in his video report

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George said...

I would like to see interview with Andy Thomson.

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