Sunday, January 31, 2010

To Pass Health Care, Democrats Should Be Against It

President Obama made a point the other day in speaking at the Republican retreat to say he wasn't an ideologue, and while there was skepticism in his audience about whether that was true, there was agreement in both parties that not being an ideologue is a good thing.

Is it? Maybe the problem is that neither party has any ideology anymore -- its just all about getting the money you need to run commercials at election time, and being against whatever the other party is for. For example, why is the decision to have the trial of Khalid "Shake Shake Shake" Mohammed in New York a Democratic position, and not having it in New York a Republican position? Republicans are usually the 24 loving macho warriors. Isn't it the more macho position to be saying, "Damn right we're going to try them at the scene of the crime! We're going to make that bastard look at Ground Zero right out the window of the courtroom every day -- we're going to stick his nose in it like a dog who's made a mess on the rug: 'Look what you did! Bad dog! Bad!!'"? I can much more easily imagine Bill O'Reilly making that case than Obama.

And yet, because its the Democrats who suggested it, the Republicans automatically piss all over it and find themselves backing the opposite approach, then make up a bunch of stupid reasons why: it'll fuck up traffic in Manhattan; it'll be a platform for Mohammed to "mock" us.

Really? The big tough guys are afraid of this loser mocking us?

Blue team says X, Red team says Y. You know how the Democrats can get health care passed? Say they're against it.

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Anonymous said...

I do not know where some of your guests get there info on Canadian Tax Rates but they are not very good at math. For example, last year I was paid $100,000. When I filed my taxes my total taxes paid out was $26,000 ($16,000 Fed tax, $10,000 provincial, probably wher the 40% comes from) and I am getting $1000 back. That works to 25% not 40% as quoted on your panel. I could have got more back but never put any money in investments last year. The taxes are well worth the cost if you are getting good service. Health care may not be the best (nothing is perfect in this world) but everyone is treated equal.

Barry from Canada

AUsername said...

Greetings from Canada!

Personally really tired of hearing some of these guys on American TV with these ridiculous statements about Canada.

WE DO NOT PAY 40% IN TAXES PERIOD! THAT IS HORSE POO! This happens a lot!!! As far as I am concerned that was an out and out lie. That should come out on air!

Not sure how it works - Do congressmen take any kind of oath when they take office?

AUsername said...

The American gov. is denying it's citizens health care and THEY HAVE FREE HEALTH CARE. It's outrageous!

If the American people ever tried to deny their gov. employees their health care, gov. employees would be screaming in the streets!

Insurance companies are paying your congress on the side! See Sicko. They got paid and they got paid LOTS!

AUsername said...

What they say about waiting months to see a doctor is horse shit too.

AUsername said...

Canadian tax scale runs between 15% and 29.5%. I believe the high end of the scale starts at $60,000.

Here the more you make the more you pay...

Jaesinn said...

Bill I agree with you totally except for one thing, Glen Beck is not Macho! LOL. Yes I too believe that the Shake, Shake, Shake should be tried at the seen of the crime and I also believe that when he is found guilty we should have a good old fashion public hanging right at ground zero. Maybe since it has almost been ten years since the Towers were knocked down by these extremists, and we still have not built shit there, then maybe we could just use the sight for public hangings of convicted terrorists, Oh wait have we even convicted any yet?

ralphy said...

BILL U R GREAT BUT U R WRONG ON GLOBAL WARMING,
carbon relation to temperature gain is a scientific fallacy

google bob carter on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI
Watch and learn Bill u might even lose some of ur scary fear

no its not true most scientists agree on GW ,there is no consensus of any kind
and there are hundreds of scientists who do not support GW at all.

Educate yourself Bill, you are very smart guy with courage . maintain your integrity and knowledge and learn more on this.


Sorry, mind the shortcuts and slang i just cant type on this tiny keyboard

UAWill said...

A little over a month ago on the View they were talking about UHC United Health Care and Whoopi said this phrase that pertained to our public officials insurance that I agree with she said "Give us what you got or you have what we have

Betty Bad said...

Okay...I have been ranting on facebook to my fellow MW buddies....so I am cutting an pasting my feelings on what happened today with "The Bill" on health care. Unfortunatly, I think it ended up being a test of if President Obama could get those "people" to do SOMETHING. And I am sure he will be remembered for it. That was impressive on its own. But, was it worth all the celebration? I am not sure because I have not read the actual bill...and I dont realy want to because I am sure I would discover some really really disgusting things (didnt all of the drug companies and insurance companies sign on...that just can't be good..right?). I guess we will have to wait and see..maybe I will read it..but those pages are a bitch for someone who majored in everything BUT politics and law. However, I am looking at the over all...bigger picture here, so bare with me and my bad spelling...anyway...my comment from facebook...."I know I keep posting Carlin ( video blurbs on language..), but I am just feeling a little riled up...I cant believe our government/country was so excited that they could pass something so basic yet lacking....but now (or what ever year it goes into effect), i guess if you get sick, need a transplant or cancer treatment... then your insurance cant drop you or max you out on your benefits...what the FUCK!!! I AM glad we have now changed the laws to prohibit this "practice" but...WHY WAS IT LIKE THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE (oh yea...money...that's it...money in the pockets of the Bernie Madeoffs running things around here...) Don't we ALL believe that if you or anyone..a stranger..are sick you should get the help needed to get better with out having to sell your home, soul, or body parts on ebay to raise funds?? Are we really proud of this accomplishment? Isn't something that just out of good ole US common human decency should be in practice already? Personally, I was embarrassed at how behind we are as a nation that we finally agreed (well not the republicans) people should not be penalized when they are sick. Shame on us letting corporations (and us) take our money and leave us to suffer. No promise means a thing to these people..or board members or stock holders.....contracts aint worth crap in the US today and seem to be tools to take your cash. It is a sad statement of where we are today and our values as a country. ($ = root of evil) And to see them cheering like that and to see the REPUBLICANS not cheering like that..makes me wonder if it was not for themselves.."Oh boy we did something..finally! Yea for us!" But, I will curb my cynical feelings for a moment and take this change for those that it will benefit and have had to face these situations..hopefully it will make it better for them.
I have, daughter with down's syndrome and a heart condition that required two surgeries before she turned two years old. Luckily, she had down's syndrome because, it made the public help easier to access for me..I cant imagine what would have happened if she were a "typically developing child" or where we would be...Some how we got away from the downs syndrome being a pre-existing condition...lol...
And for those that don't care or think.."oh, in the US you have to make it on YOUR OWN.."..you are either a narcissist, psychopath, or just BEATEN and have hidden your soul to love and goodness. Fuck you..it could happen to your grandkids...or sister..you don't know. Or is that how you do it in your family?..take care of yourself... Guess what guys...we are all...all...all... related...(thing called genetics..look it up)..we all come from the same source (maybe a couple at best). So, yes...I ask again..is this how you do it in your family?

And this is my facebook opinion...so there.

karen said...

To pass heathcare the entire congress..the Drs station within the congress should walk out, they should all become ill and be voted out without retirment benefits other than their personal 401k's! No contirbutions to campaigns, theyre all such beggars..not so different than the homeless on streets..except they offer "favors" around like a childs bd party..

karen said...

To pass healthcare, non republicans should wipe their germy hands on the shirts of republicans!

Enrico Luisoni said...

Hi Bill, just saw your film RELIGULOUS again on DVD, now I want to let you know a piece of my artwork (and meening about religions), exhibited 2009 at lichtfeld gallery:
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jjzamball said...

April 1, 2010.

This comment is not specifically about the Health Care drams. I saw Bill Maher recently on late night television. I don't know if it was a re-broadcast or not.

If Christianity is so trivial and ridiculous, why is it necessary for Bill Maher to spend his entire segment as a guest on the show trying to convince viewers that Christianity is nonsense ? Perhaps God is using Bill Maher to have the viewers keep Him in mind, so they will someday turn to this option as a way out when their lives hit rock bottom. Far too many people for Bill Maher to be comfortable with can attest to the peace that comes with this change in their life.

I will pray for Bill Maher. I hope someday that he will be eager to pray for all of us.

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Republicans voted unanimously against the bill . There were a number of Democrats who defected; a total of 34 Democrats who voted against the health care reform bill.

Dave Hazelwood said...

I really really like Bill Maher and pretty much share all his opinions except for his Jesus rants. They make me "cringe".

Where does Bill think "life" comes from anyway?

Until he can prove that it does not come from a supreme being I think he should STFU about it already.

When you look at the diversity of life and the complexity of billions of different living cells and the fact that man and his advanced science is not capable of making nor understanding the nature of life in even ONE simple living cell it should be pretty obvious to even a dummy that there is a God.

Hell we can't even explain magnetism let alone consciousness.

You are conscious aren't you Bill ?

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UAWill said...

I wish someone heard what Whoopi said about health care on the view a few months ago, it was AWESOME.It was before it past but what she saidwas so very true. Hope you can find the clip. It is on youtube (whoopi goldberg on health care "give me what you got"). Can you believe no one picked up on that? What the hell? Cause - SHE IS RIGHT.

UAWill said...

I love your show Bill and hope you will bring up the Whoopi comment at the table and on the air, like to hear your thoughts on this.

UAWill said...

Its crazy Bill they (the policians) who work for us (the american tax payers there employer) but yet they (the politicians the employees) have better health care than us (the american tax payers there bosses) HOW IS THAT RIGHT

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