Sunday, April 26, 2009

The GOP: divorced from reality

The Republican base is behaving like a guy who just got dumped by his wife.

If conservatives don't want to be seen as bitter people who cling to their guns and religion and anti-immigrant sentiments, they should stop being bitter and clinging to their guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiments.

It's been a week now, and I still don't know what those "tea bag" protests were about. I saw signs protesting abortion, illegal immigrants, the bank bailout and that gay guy who's going to win "American Idol." But it wasn't tax day that made them crazy; it was election day. Because that's when Republicans became what they fear most: a minority.

The conservative base is absolutely apoplectic because, because ... well, nobody knows. They're mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. Even though they're not quite sure what "it" is. But they know they're fed up with "it," and that "it" has got to stop.

Here are the big issues for normal people: the war, the economy, the environment, mending fences with our enemies and allies, and the rule of law.

And here's the list of Republican obsessions since President Obama took office: that his birth certificate is supposedly fake, he uses a teleprompter too much, he bowed to a Saudi guy, Europeans like him, he gives inappropriate gifts, his wife shamelessly flaunts her upper arms, and he shook hands with Hugo Chavez and slipped him the nuclear launch codes.

Do these sound like the concerns of a healthy, vibrant political party?

It's sad what's happened to the Republicans. They used to be the party of the big tent; now they're the party of the sideshow attraction, a socially awkward group of mostly white people who speak a language only they understand. Like Trekkies, but paranoid.

The GOP base is convinced that Obama is going to raise their taxes, which he just lowered. But, you say, "Bill, that's just the fringe of the Republican Party." No, it's not. The governor of Texas, Rick Perry, is not afraid to say publicly that thinking out loud about Texas seceding from the Union is appropriate considering that ... Obama wants to raise taxes 3% on 5% of the people? I'm not sure exactly what Perry's independent nation would look like, but I'm pretty sure it would be free of taxes and Planned Parenthood. And I would have to totally rethink my position on a border fence.

I know. It's not about what Obama's done. It's what he's planning. But you can't be sick and tired of something someone might do.

Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota recently said she fears that Obama will build "reeducation" camps to indoctrinate young people. But Obama hasn't made any moves toward taking anyone's guns, and with money as tight as it is, the last thing the president wants to do is run a camp where he has to shelter and feed a bunch of fat, angry white people.

Look, I get it, "real America." After an eight-year run of controlling the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court, this latest election has you feeling like a rejected husband. You've come home to find your things out on the front lawn -- or at least more things than you usually keep out on the front lawn. You're not ready to let go, but the country you love is moving on. And now you want to call it a whore and key its car.

That's what you are, the bitter divorced guy whose country has left him -- obsessing over it, haranguing it, blubbering one minute about how much you love it and vowing the next that if you cannot have it, nobody will.

But it's been almost 100 days, and your country is not coming back to you. She's found somebody new. And it's a black guy.

The healthy thing to do is to just get past it and learn to cherish the memories. You'll always have New Orleans and Abu Ghraib.

And if today's conservatives are insulted by this, because they feel they're better than the people who have the microphone in their party, then I say to them what I would say to moderate Muslims: Denounce your radicals. To paraphrase George W. Bush, either you're with them or you're embarrassed by them.

The thing that you people out of power have to remember is that the people in power are not secretly plotting against you. They don't need to. They already beat you in public.

-Bill Maher

Published April 24 2009 The Los Angeles Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-maher24-2009apr24,0,927819.story



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ZenGrouch said...

Yeah, they're *TeaBaggers* all right, and proud of it!

Got a recorded message on the phone reminding me to get out there and participate in the big cross country protest.

Check out the first of two posts at my blog:
www.zengrouch.com

It has the same tone of this comment I'm responding to, but with a lot more cussin' and bile.

F'in' Rush Tub O' Shit...

Friends of George Cushingberry said...

Rick Santelli is a punk that can't back up his words when challenged.

America is getting 8 years of what we in Michigan already have received for 12 years under Republican leadership.

So Michigan has been suffering for 20 years under GOP leadership and influence.

But at least we can say here that Medical Marijuana received more votes than Barack Obama in the 2008 election.

A bi-partisan joint effort of our residents..

Hemp Fuel is the New Rule !


GM needs weed to succeed... to give us what we need..

Jobs.

HyperActiveX said...

Hil-freakin-arious post! Welcome back, Bill - you haven't been blogging in a while.

Crusader said...

Bill, I have much respect for you concerning many issues, such as the environment. However, you are an anti-white bigot. You think that's edgy? It's not courageous to beat up an white people. It's the trend. How 'bout I classify the democrats as a bunch of blacks, illegal immigrant Mexicans and elitist Jews like you. You say you're party is so much more evolved than those "white conservatives?" Hah! Whites created civilization. Liberals like you will be responsible for its downfall. Because of your attitude, the US will one day look like Mexico, Africa, Haiti. You can pretend those places are hellholes by fault of the white man, but you'd be another ignorant liberal who has no concept of history, who cherry-picks your facts to fit your anti-white, anti-western agenda. An example of this would be liberal perceptions of Africa. Oh, it's our fault right, for colonizing them? Wrong! They were left behind 30,000 years ago in the paleolithic. Can you even pronounce that, Mr. elititst? When whites made it into the dark continent, blacks didn't even know how to use metal. When we colonized them, we brought all the technology we have been advancing since the Bronze Age, 3500 years ago. Black Africans were blessed by our takeover of them. Their infant mortality rate decreased, their literacy rate went from zero to 50%, and they were finally provided clean water and food surpluses. When we left, they descended back to their native state - oblivion. You liberals pride yourself on Darwinian ideology, yet you will not allow the strong to survive. Sure, are there a lot of dumb whites? Yeah. But there's a thousand times more idiots among the blacks and Mexicans. Let's see you gloss over this argument with the typical liberal-McCarthyist method of blacklisting, ie: by calling me a racist.
PS: Egypt was white too. That's right. Just like the US wasn't built by Native Americans, Egypt was not built by what we would consider Africans, ie: blacks. Whites created it all. Possibly even China, but certainly Mesopotamia, and the Indus River Valley Civilization. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

StevePrutz said...

The last few paragraphs are golden. Good, as always.

Dan Beeman said...

Hi Bill - You have GOT to read this blog. It will make for an interesting rant on your show. http://sponsorshipinsights.com/blog/?p=366

Marisa said...

Crusader, there are only THREE races - Caucasian (and it contains MANY colors and ethnic groups), Negro (native Africans of the Negro race, and that does not count African Caucasians, such as Egyptians), and Mongolians (Orientals and the ancestors of Native Americans who crossed the Bering Strait to enter North America). Bill Maher is not anti-white. You are just anti-informed.

Damian Nicholas Noble said...

Hi Bill,

You have got to check out this music band. Besides the fact that both their music and lyrics are out of this world, it's incredible that they actually came out from Florida.

In their songs they touch concepts like how religions should not conditionate society, and how progress comes from intellect and reason...

Anyways, check it out:
The name of the song is Awarned

http://www.myspace.com/organicarma

Crusader said...

Marissa, what is your point? I don't get how your definition of the 3 races conflicts with my argument. I assure you, I know far more than you about history and racial classes. Why don't you explain in further depth why I'm supposedly ill-informed? Because, you have the debating skills of a highschooler. The first egyptians were red-haired by the way. Yeah, that's right. No debating that's white, right?

ZenGrouch said...

Sheesh... I'd hate to imagine Crusader's post if he didn't "have much respect for you concerning many issues..."ZenGrouch.com

ZenGrouch said...

...oh yeah, I almost forgot, that's how the right wing nuts start their posts.


**I'm not a Bible Thumper... BUT!...**or my all time favorite...


**I'm not a Republican or Democrat... BUT!...**...ZenGrouch.com

Crusader said...

Zengrouch is yet another moron left-wing nut who can't back up anything he says with facts. I'm sorry I'm not 2-dimensional enough for you. I'm sorry I actually care about the environment and am also tired of being beaten up for being white and wanting to protect my borders from mass waves of third-worlders who bleed california dry, who suck out every bit of welfare they can get. I'm sorry I think affirmative action is a load. I'm sorry I actually have a mind to think on my own. You left-wingers are just as dogmatic as any Bible-thumper, you just claim to be fact-based. At least they just claim to have faith in some book. They're not pretending it's an act of logic. You're more dangerous because you think you're something you're not - intelligent.

ZenGrouch said...

Oh... *I'm* not fact based or intelligent?


So tell me professor, is the planet Earth, much older than 6,000 years?


Remember, Jebus is watching you. Don't deny Him, or you'll burn in hell!

ZenGrouch said...

Anyone else see where recently Bill Nye *The Science Guy* was boo'd by an audience of ADULTS in Waco, Texas for explaining that the Moon reflects light from the Sun!?

I shit you not. Do a Google with the Science Guy's name, Moon, and boo.

I think Moron might work too.

Anyway, teaching that the Moon doesn't produce it's own light went against their Christian beliefs!

RIGHT!

I'M FUCKING DOGMATIC!!!

ZenGrouch said...

Remember too Crusader...

If you *deny* the truth, that's the same as lying about it.

And that'll make the Baby Jesus cry.

So, how old is Mammy Earth? 6,000... 7,000 years?

Does Rush have a gravitational force so strong, that no logic can escape it?

Crusader said...

Zengrouch, why the hell do you keep assuming I'm a Christian? Because you're little pea-brain can't comprehend multidimensionality. If you can't read the last word, break it up into smaller pieces to make it easier. I'm not a Christian, straitup. How dare you dis on them so flagrantly though. I might say the same about any dumbass religion, such as Judaism and Islam. But, I actually base my thoughts off facts, which necessarily means that I can't merely blindly follow some book. I'm not a Christian, in any way whatsoever. You, on the other hand, are an idiot. By the way, if you ever want to test my knowledge of Earth's history or anything else, I'd be happy to oblige. Maybe if you read my comment earlier you'd notice I already mentioned that whites left blacks behind 30,000 years ago, in the Paleolithic. Do you even know what the Paleolithic is?

ZenGrouch said...

A simple yes or no will do.

Is the Bible of the Christians and Jews wrong when it states that the Earth is about 6,000 years old?

As far as your statement of how the "whites left blacks behind 30,000 years ago, in the Paleolithic."

This is a clear statement, that you believe the whites to be superior on the evolutionary scale, since Whitie left de' Black man in the dust 30,000 years ago.

Where are your facts to back up this racist "Dogma"?

Now... you claimed that Mr. Maher is an anti-white bigot.

I'm guessing you have no facts to back this up.

While it is the facts that show you to be an anti-Black bigot.

Crusader said...

How many times do I have to say that I'm not a Christian you numbskull. Yes, the Earth is billions of years old. F*** the Bible. I spit on the bible. Is that good enough for you. I will admit that I was a bit hypocritical when I used anti-white bigot as a buzz word. I would prefer that we all stop calling each other bigots and merely rely on fact. The fact is, if I talked about blacks the way he talks about whites, I'd be called a bigot. I knew that the truth would make you call me a bigot. You want the facts, how about what I talked about with blacks not even knowing how to use metal. You don't know how to read or something? I have a million facts. The blacks continued using stone-tipped spears and running around in grass skirts, living in Paleolithic-style, circular mud huts, while the white man created stone buildings, learned how to use metal, created writing. I could go on ad finitum, but the information is in any book about the subject. Naturally, they don't put quite the same spin on it, but the facts are clear. We have had greater technology for 30,000 years at least. I consider that to be a mark of our superiority, on the whole, yes. That doesn't mean that I think all blacks are stupid. It just means that their aren't as many smart ones, which is why Africa is in the piss-poor condition it is today. And don't blame it on colonization, or the fact that when we left we dared integrate "warring ethnicities" such as the hutus and tutsis in Rwanda. I love how liberals are all of a sudden against integration when it comes to putting two black tribes in Africa together. Africa is the way it is today because it has always been that way, except for when whites ruled. I've got you metally outgunned homeboy. You just can't admit that you've finally met an intelligent conservative, liberalisms worst f***ing enemy.

ZenGrouch said...

I thought you said you are *for* the environment?

Yet, you claim the Black man is behind the White man on the evolutionary ladder, because it is the White man who conquered, and has managed to destroy the environment, rather than to live in harmony with it.

Right, and the American Indians are a bunch of dumb asses for letting us give them diseased blankets!

It's your racist opinion that rather than the White man branching off from the Black man eons ago, we left those suckers in the dust, because we had the tools to kill 'em in mass.

Dumb asses bringing spears to a gun fight!

Yeah, you're much too smart for me...

ZenGrouch said...

NOW! do you see why I mistook you for a Christian?!

ZenGrouch said...

OK, let's forget the accomplishments of the Whites vs the Blacks since their breakup...

Are you saying the the White man is genetically and intellectually superior to the Black man?

Hep me Mr.Intelligent Conservative I gots to know...

ZenGrouch said...

...oh, before you answer that last one, remember now, the filthy Irish are *technically* White.

ZenGrouch said...

I can see the learned one now, consulting books and charts...

**let's see, I'm feeling pretty fierce...

...but I'm not looking so good.

HERE IT IS! I'm a Vagina!

TAKE THAT STUPID LIBERAL!**

Crusader said...

I couldn't even figure out half of what you said on those couple last comments. Sorry I actually had to do something else besides trying to educate a dolt like yourself. Your arguments are a bunch of emotional hogwash. I'm sorry the truth makes your pussy hurt. I will address your bs comment on environmentalism. Your argument that blacks chose to be left behind technologically because they wanted to be in harmony with nature falls flat on its face under the light of any scrutiny. The blacks lacked technology because they weren't smart enough to create any. The white man did not create technology to be out of harmony, he did it to bring food surpluses, clean water, safe shelter, things the lesser races demand we provide them. Poor Africa doesn't have clean water. Why doesn't the white man bring it to them? That's the call of the liberals. The black man wished he had the ability to create such technology, and had he half the brain, would've done far worse to nature than the white man ever did. Look at the third world today. The little industrial capability they have they use to pollute the living shit out of their environment. Conversely, respect for nature is a white heritage, predating even the Aryans of ancient India, who created the Hindu and Buddhist ideologies of karma and respect for all life. By the way, before you misread that statement, respect for all life does not mean letting yourself be taken over by inferior races. Your assumption that blacks wanted to be in harmony while the big, mean, aggressive white man conquered everyone rings of the anti-white fairy tale I often hear from liberals. As usual, it is completely baseless. Blacks have committed the last three major genocides, besides Darfur. Rwanda, Uganda, Congo, all blacks killing millions of blacks. And merely with machetes and old AKs they buy from the white man. Imagine if they had the intelligence to make their own guns, planes, bombs. The blacks in Africa enslave each other to this day by the tens of thousands per year, as they were doing before the white man ever arrived. We needed merely to trade metal tools to them and they provided us slaves, a trade they engaged in since the beginnings of their existance, for they weren't advanced enough to provide anything else. The blacks are just as out of harmony with nature, just as genocidal, and I would argue more so. Their bloodlust is embodied by the death rate in our inner cities, the genocides in Africa and a long history of violence. Had they half the brain of the white man, they would have conquered and enslaved other races, instead of merely preying upon their own dumbasses. Suck on that homeboy!

Crusader said...

By the way, the blankets were merely an easy method of destruction. We could've trampled the Natives under our advanced technology and strategic thinking. By the way, you may have heard of the Aztecs, a Native American Empire who tortured and murdered tens of millions of people in less than a hundred years via ripping their hearts out while they were alive. You don't deserve to live among the great white culture. Go to your beloved Africa and Mexico if you desire to "live in harmony." Otherwise, you're merely a weasel, bitching traitor who bites the hand that feeds you.

ZenGrouch said...

I hope you aren't as schizophrenic as your apples and oranges arguments...

Where did I say the Blacks or Whites looked into the future to decide on their path of evolution?

And yes, the White race has done a grand job of living in harmony with the environment and all living things.

Also, I didn't catch a direct answer to the question of whether or not the Black man is as intellectually and genetically wonderful as the white man.

Sure, you danced around the question, in a way that would make Haggard on crack proud, but no actual answer.

And you keep using examples of Africa in the past 50 or so years, in a time line spanning 30,000 years, by your estimate, to explain why you believe it is that the Black man is an ignorant sub-human, that's only in the way of the White man's progress.

Typical flaming right wing nut. Afraid to say what's really on your racist little mind.

**Sieg Heil Baby!**

ZenGrouch said...

"By the way, you may have heard of the Aztecs, a Native American Empire who tortured and murdered tens of millions of people in less than a hundred years via ripping their hearts out while they were alive."Never heard this one.

Got a link to back up this up professor?

Tens of MILLIONS in less than a hundred years 'eh?

The Aztecs killed between 600 to 1,000 people every day for up to a hundred years?

Wow... I'd like to learn more!

ZenGrouch said...

"You don't deserve to live among the great white culture. Go to your beloved Africa and Mexico if you desire to "live in harmony." Otherwise, you're merely a weasel, bitching traitor who bites the hand that feeds you."This one needed to be posted again.

It shows the depths of your racial hatred.

Hey, I'm all for keeping the Illegals out of our country, to make room for people who want to come here the RIGHT WAY!

But you're pretty close to being a full blown goose stepping Nazi...

Crusader said...

Zengrouch, arguing with you is like arguing with a lobotomized imbicile. I've provided you long, detailed comments. You've provided short, small-minded petty nonsense. Don't try to pretend that you're anywhere near my intellectual caliber. You resort to Christian-bashing a non-Christian and saying that the evidence I provided you which speaks to everything from 30,000 years to the 1600s ad to modern day is merely referring to the past fifty years. You have no diligence to be able to actually read something that is too complicated for your inferior mind. Your not worth my time faggot. So I'm ending this conversation.

ZenGrouch said...

"You've provided short, small-minded petty nonsense."Yet, in a very short time I've proven you to be a hypocritical, long winded, racist, homophobic Nazi, who isn't nearly as intelligent as he believes himself to be.

So, take your football, slide rule, racist garbage and swastika, and run on home now. I hear yo' mammy callin' ya' son...

And thanks, I haven't had this much fun in a while Dilbert.

Crusader said...

You're dumb as dirt.

ZenGrouch said...

I can live with that...

...How do you deal with being a racist Nazi piece of shit?

ZenGrouch said...

...oh, and does THIS mean you're *not* breaking up with me?

ya stupid putz...

ZenGrouch said...

I'm sorry, calling you a "stupid putz" might offend you, for being slightly redundant.

Ya' ignorant cunt...

Crusader said...

I'm proud a dumbass little bitch like you feels that way. You're a spineless turd, genetic runoff. I am now finally done with you, for real. You can continue sniping nonsense at me. I won't reply.

ZenGrouch said...

Wow... Done *fo'sho* this time!

"You're a spineless turd, genetic runoff."Good thing Schickelgruber's gone, or he might have ended up *exterminating* my sub-par genetic line.

**I'll bet this mutt drives a BMW, to impress the Fräuleins**

ZenGrouch said...

"By the way, you may have heard of the Aztecs, a Native American Empire who tortured and murdered tens of millions of people in less than a hundred years via ripping their hearts out while they were alive."Or as you and your buddies like to call 'em, Native American Jews...

Guess you couldn't find that link backing up this statement, before you ran away with your tail between your yapping bitch legs.

ZenGrouch said...

Heir Shane... Heir Shane... please comeinze back!

Cyd the Kid said...

Hey ZenGrouch,

Do you ever ask Jews what year it is? Or do you simply grace white Christians with your ignorance? Just askin', nomsayin bro?

Oh, before you ejaculate all over yourself, I am not a bible thumper and believe in evolution and that the universe and earth are billions of years old. I just respect others and their beliefs, unlike a dipshit hypocrite like yourself.

Crusader, right on brother! Bill is an anti-white bigot and he certainly went way over the top on his last show using "white" as a slur, attacking Carrie Prejean and playing up the Somali pirate as a cuddly little black kid. What a turd, Maher is.

Wolfman said...

Zengrouch, mmmmmmm let's see what that could mean, what a name! Zen, ahhh the Zen of motorcycle maintainence......Zen Prophet, Zen Healer? Zen name caller, Nazi, Homophobic, racist! Well, that's a great example of ZEN.
Grouch...well I guess you consider yourself a little testy right? A little more than testy I'd say. I'd say that you have some very serious inferiority issues, to the extent that you must project upon others your unexocised grinding and putrifying guilt.
As, I'll assume, a fan of Mr. Maher you both share a childish and parochial sense of humor. However there the similarity stops, because even though he's a little recalcitrant elitist, he can maintain his cool.
It is sad that cool is no longer cool, but only maintiaining a face in the face of burgeoning truth.
It is a very sad statement that Bill Maher has an audience, however it it plain to see what caliber that audience is with the knee jerk liberal ejactulations of this prepubecient...Zen(hahaha)Grouch.....really ?

As for Crusader, well what you had to say was well stated. IT was factual and if there's anything the liberals hate, it's facts.
It is also a fact that blacks are the most superstitious, homophobic, and racist of us all.
I was raised to treat all people the same, and as far from a bigot as one could be. What I've seen in the last 20 years, since I was a hippy and marched against the vietnam war, is my race being bashed, beaten, insulted, and marginalized. Women said they'd been subjugated, now they subjugate.Blacks said they were made slaves, now they will make slaves of us. Mexicans were defeated here in N. America, now they're taking it back.
However, what did the women, blacks, and hispanics ever do for civilization?
When you get into your car on a hot day and roll down the road you can thank a white man for: The car, the air-cond, the tires, the steering wheel, the technology that you take for granted.
All you liberal apologists that turn your back on the sweat and tears of your forefathers,....Welcome to Haiti........All of you elltist,America haters, White self haters, that accuse everyone else of hate, take a look in the mirror and spew your rant to yourself. You are the one that needs to hear it, you are the ones that will benefit from it. You are the ones with the guilt complex, and the ones that hate yourself. Go look at Jeanine Garafalo and see yourself.

ZenGrouch said...

"I just respect others and their beliefs, unlike a dipshit hypocrite like yourself."So, if I call someone on their Voo-doo beliefs, that have absolutely no basis in reality, I'm being a hypocrite?!

Ya' know... for someone who respects others beliefs, you sure like the name calling...

...hypocrite!

ZenGrouch said...

"As for Crusader, well what you had to say was well stated. IT was factual and if there's anything the liberals hate, it's facts."Thanks for the free analysis Dr. Mengele!

For a long winded blow hard, you're actually quite funny...

Bill said...

The Jewish had to give up there guns too! Gun Banner's could really use a history lesson...Keep Reading!

JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION
OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP

America's Most Aggressive Defender
of Firearms Ownership

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/movieplay-innocents-trailer.swf.htm

WORLDWIDE HISTORY OF GUN CONFISCATION

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated…

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

ZenGrouch said...

Wolfman:

1) fictional creature that howls at the Moon

2) famous discjokey from the 1950's and early 1960's

3) dog fucker

Wolfman said...

Gee, I haven't been called Dr. Mengele since when I was fucking a rather buxom, frazzle haired, Jewish girl named Anna,,and she screamed it in some exigent circumstances as she was cumming.
Maybe she was the dog you were referring to.
But, of course, you already knew that, didn't you Zen Master GRouch.

ZenGrouch said...

You idiot...

She was probably screaming out "Voflmon" which is Yiddish for "Wrong Hole" ya' shit fucker.

Mark said...

Please, who are the morons? The idiots who regularly listen to a failed and not funny comic who now knows everything... That's funny!!! People who actually know their facts and history like O'Rielly and Christopher Hitchens, routinely take liberal loons like Maher to task….

ZenGrouch said...

"Please, who are the morons?"Well, if you *have* to ask, *or* you listen to O'Rielly (sic)...

...YOU'RE the moron!

spacemoose said...

Hi Bill

Enjoyed the last episode.

I did agree with Howard Dean that trying to tackle gun control now would be difficult, and would be a strategic error. Frankly I have a hard time getting enthusiastic about banning firearms. I currently live in a country which has a much much higher rate of gun ownership than the US, and radically lower murder, crime and accidental shooting rates: Switzerland. Considering the evidence rationally, the guns aren't the problem. They, and the violence, are symptoms of larger sociological problems in the U.S.

There is however a policy change which the evidence supports irrefutably: We can get rid of the violence in Mexico, reduce crime, save lives, and free a lot unjustly imprisoned Americans by ending prohibition, as you know. I just wish you'd made the point during your panel, rather than bringing up gun control.

How about getting Howard Woodridge, or one of the other guys over at leap to come as a guest on your show?

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Nomtoc said...

Tea baggers... pppfffttttt

Crusader said...

The Aztlani Mexicans believe that they have the right to take the US Southwest by force. They explicitly write about taking over and purging these lands of whites and blacks. That's right. A little known fact is that Mexicans and blacks hate each other as much if not more than any kkk member hates them. The government obviously doesn't care about our welfare and would be happy to turn a momentary blind eye, and that's all it would take, a moment. You see, Maher thinks we want guns in case the government gets "uppity." He is right to assume that we would be hard pressed to fight the government's nukes and tanks with our small arms. Like he alluded to, it's probably never gonna happen that the government itself will attack. However, they could be slow to coming to our defense if some street war broke out between the Mexicans and native-born US citizens. If we have no guns, it would take a mere two or three days for a well-orchestrated assault by the well-armed Mexican drug cartels, gangs and Aztlani rebels to kill thousands of us. It would be somewhat like the Rodney King riots, only on a far greater scale and with the outcome being ethnic cleansing. Unarmed whites would flee the area or be shot. Their belongings would be confiscated and their houses burnt. Like the LA riots, the government would not blame the assaulters. They would find yet another reason to blame the white victim. They would stand by "helplessly," as they did when the black rioteers beat Reginald Denny with a brick for no other reason than he was white. Just as the riots were not remembered by the world as an ugly example of black racism and violence towards their white and asian neighbors, the Aztlani assault would be seen as a "tragic" but "understandable" fuming of anger after "years of oppression." The traitors running our government don't want the blacks to be ethnically cleansed, but they are pawns caught in the middle of the ultimate target, which is the white man. Yes, the evil, reptilian, international you-know-whats who run the world behind closed doors have one major goal - to destroy the white man, through outright violence and forced intermarriage with the putrifying black race (the movie Obsessed is a flagrant example of the media trying to brainwash our girls into thinking black men are just so hot and irresistable.) Once the white man is mostly gone, and those left have had their genes sufficiently sullied, the reptilians know that it will be no contest to come out of the closet and rule the world openly and with an iron fist. For it is only the white man who has the brains and fortitude to pose a threat to these ugly rulers.

Crusader said...

You outlaw guns and only the outlaws will have guns.

Wolfman said...

Crusader; Your exposition on the fate of L.A. or America is grounded in reality, but quickly degenerates into somewhat paranoid speculation. Please control your penchant for speculation and your reference to the gene pool and purity it's beginning to give the Zen punk credability when he calls you a Nazi.

Crusader said...

Believe it or not, I do not have light eyes nor hair nor skin. My beliefs are based on broad statistics, broad demographics, not specific individuals. and I do happen to think that, on the whole, blacks sully the gene pool. I believe only the upper fraction of them deserves to intermix, and such is what would naturally happen if our welfare didn't keep all the morons in their race alive. By default, the white race would thus not be threatened. I'm not Nordic, not even a little bit. But I don't want the nordics gone. I'm like a conservationist who wants to save the snow leopard,, because i appreciate their beauty.

Crusader said...

Let me give further context. I don't mean to sound hateful. I really want peace. I'm just so friggin angry at what I see as a conscious, purposeful push to overmix. I see the media pushing the idea that blacks in particular are more than they are. I don't want their race gone, but I also don't want the white race gone. When things are left to their natural devices, all races are spared and live in harmony. When certain people in the media make white men look like needle-dicked, flaccid little homos, and then make the black man look like the hung, strapping athlete who created the first civilization (lies), I feel someone is imbalancing the equation. I react to this with extreme anger and venom. There's no affirmative action to put more whites in sports. Meanwhile, no one can talk openly (this blogging is not open) about black weaknesses. I absolutely feel that the media is trying to pair black men up with white women to specifically end our race. I truly believe that. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Cyd the Kid said...

Clearly, ZenTurd is an empty, hysterical, leftist caricature. The truly sad part is that he thinks he is succesful with his monosyllabic grunts.

So, if I call someone on their Voo-doo beliefs, that have absolutely no basis in reality, I'm being a hypocrite?!The question was, ZenTurd, do you ask Jews what year it is? My guess would be no, therefore you ARE a hypocrite as you limit your "Voo-doo" questioning to a limited group, that being, white Christians. Now get lost!

Crusader said...

I'm not a Christian, but I'll stand side by side with them against the jews and Muslims anyday. Christianity is an innately peaceful and, for lack of a better word, sweet religion. What fault can one possibly find in Jesus? The disproportionate anger at Christians for being supposedly violent and aggressive and cruel is so false it's hilarious. It's so funny I forgot to laugh. I am also not a masogynist. I think women should be respected and have contributed much to civilization.

ZenGrouch said...

"Believe it or not, I do not have light eyes nor hair nor skin. My beliefs are based on broad statistics, broad demographics, not specific individuals. and I do happen to think that, on the whole, blacks sully the gene pool."...

In other words:

**Some of my best friends are Jungle Bunnies.

AND... It's not that I'm racists, it's just that all niggers spread syphilis.**

Crusader said...

that's right dipshit. you pegged me (sarcasm). I think I stated my point clear enough. It's no surprise you don't understand the nuance.

ZenGrouch said...

"Let me give further context. I don't mean to sound hateful. I really want peace. I'm just so friggin angry at what I see as a conscious, purposeful push to overmix."...

Is that a direct quote from Hitler?

So Wolfman...

Still think I was way off base calling this fruit loop a Nazi?

Crusader said...

If Hitler quoted that, he was probably right and the same thing was going on in his era. You don't know how to argue. You only know how to compare to Christians and Hitler. If Hitler said the Earth was round, would it automatically be wrong. I would never kill or condone killing of anyone or anything. I want to help the starving Africans (unlike Hitler) but we don't teach them how to fish, so to speak, so that they may eat for a lifetime. we merely throw money at them and never teach them discipline, thus wasting our money and resulting in a bunch of irresponsible morons overpopulating, always providing more mouths to feed. this is just one example of wrong liberalism. I would be happy if all people were fed, happy, living in harmony and no race was threatened with extinction. The only reason I'm addressing you is so others my read and not think, just because I'm steely eyed concerning the truth of what's happening, that I want genocide and destruction. Violence begets violence. I would never hurt a fly. I've never beat an individual. I'm sorry my words are so brutal you pussy. I'm done with you. I shall no more adress you directly.

ZenGrouch said...

Cyd d' Kid...

What difference does it make who I've conversed with regarding what year their calendar has on it?

But yeah, I've talked with Chinese and Jews about their respective calendar years.

It's just that an overwhelming number of Fundamentalist Christians are over the top on what is written in some book of fiction.

These crazies will pull out all the stops to make themselves appear to not be as out of touch with reality as they are.

Now, I'm sure there are exceptions, but I dare you to go out and find a Jew and an Asian who believe, as do the Fundamentalist Christians, that the cartoon 'The Flintstones' is an accurate depiction of humans living alongside FUCKING DINOSAURS!

I doubt that you'll have any luck, try as you might, to convert these godless lost souls, so that they can see the light, and be filled with the holy spirit, that removes logic from the brain with a sacred golden ice cream scoop.

ZenGrouch said...

"You don't know how to argue."Only a crazy person argues with a crazy person...

I'm just having a bit of fun, and showing you in a light, that backs up my earlier stated opinion of you.

Hey, how are you coming with that link to back up your statement about the Aztecs killing tens of millions of people by ripping out their hearts in less than a hundred year period.

Ya' see. I really don't care about the link, because you won't produce one.

I'm just yankin' your chain, while showing you to be a much bigger idiot than you believe yourself to be.

Catch THAT nuance Heir Gerbils, ya' squirrely rodent!

ZenGrouch said...

"I'm done with you. I shall no more adress you directly."...

STRRRRRRIKE THREEEEE!

I'm outta there!

...did I mention you're a LIAR too?

Crusader said...

Ok, you got me, I had to come back on this and then I hope I'm done. Because I gotta get a life and stop letting a douche like you get under my skin. I can not believe you're still asking for that link. You are so dumb. I don't get my information off the internet like all the misinformed black nationalists and the like. The internet is full of unaccredited opinion writers, of which the truth is hard to separate from the mere unvalidated opinion. Of course, you wouldn't know that, because you obviously have no ability to do honest research, otherwise you wouldn't be asking me to provide a link to prove an indisputable fact of history. would you also like me to provide a link to the fact that the sun provides heat, that France is in Europe and that the Catholic Church is based in Rome. Why don't you read a book on the subject you dolt! And not one written by a Mexican nationalist. Any, I do mean any, accredited book on the subject, written by liberal or conservative alike (most anthropologists and historians are liberals) will verify that the Aztecs were a human-sacrificing culture who had hundreds of temples each where they killed thousands of people, so that the blood would flow down the stairs continuously. the stairs were steep for that very reason. Why don't you actually know what you're talking about before you speak.

ZenGrouch said...

"The internet is full of unaccredited opinion writers, of which the truth is hard to separate from the mere unvalidated opinion."...

Not in your case, Einstein.

That's why I keep asking you to back up your ravings with something believable.

Not for the actual information, but to show you in the proper light.

But I guess what you're trying so eloquently to say, is that I shouldn't bother a busy man such as yourself, and should look it up for myself.

...am I close?

I really do hope for your miserable sake, that you've learned something here.

Crusader said...

Now you're just purposely saying nonsense to bug me, like a fifth grader who likes to watch someone get riled. I learned as much from you as I learned from my pet rock. I guess you won't read a book on the subject. Big surprise.

Crusader said...

you're a f***ing child. I can honestly say I hate people like you.

Wolfman said...

No I don't believe that Crusader is a Nazi.It's too bad that Zen's arguement is so hateful, I've read Zen's talking like a negro slave, {ie mammmy) etc, and many times he's resorted to name callinng and one can imagine his spittle spraying all over his keyboard. Howeve, he does embody the essence of the Bill Maher fan. He has been indoctrinated well, with the code words (ie racist, facist,) etc. It is the knee jerk, emphasis on the jerk, liberal indoctrination that aides Bill Maher in his self agrandizing pulpet, and economic fortune. Bill Maher simply makes money on their fears and self loathing. Their fears, and his too, are directly related to their belief that they are the only ones who really care about themselves, that there is nothing out there that is loftier than their fears, and they revell in their narcissism.......

Crusader is correct in the case of the Aztec's brutality. I don't believe his numbers are quite that extensive in history, but the cutting out of hearts, human sacrifice, and other major brutality is a marked part of their society.

I agree completely with Crusader's evaluation of the Media, and it's agenda. It is more than prevailent where the white man is portrayed as a bumbling, inefectual, moron on one hand, and an unfeeling psychotic on the other. He is almost never portrayed as the hero anymore. Where as the hero's are all blacks, women, hispanics, or gays.
Anyone but the white male.
This is a program by the media, to meet their agenda. It is plain to anyone who want to see it. IT satisfies the guilt complex or the the low selfesteem of the left.

It is this agenda that Bill Maher supports and pushes. It's amazing to me that he started out as (Politically inncorrect) has he done a 360 or what. He's more the the blockchief for the communist party.

Crusader said...

Arguing with Zengrouch is like talking to Zoolander. Remember the scene where David Duchovny's character is telling them models are used for assassination. Zoolander asks "But, why models?" Duchovny goes into great depth about why models are used, because they're in great physical shape, they have access to top elites, and they're so dumb they're easily brainwashable. After this long description, Zoolander asks "But, why models?" Duchovny says, "Are you serious? I just answered that." That's Zengrouch. Zengrouch, Zoolander, oohoohoo. Is there a connection? Are you a model Zengrouch. If stupidity were the only qualification, you'd make a fine assassin. I know your only aim at the end was to bug me. It's sad on your end that you didn't think you could defeat me in debate. You lesser peon! Peace homeboy

ZenGrouch said...

"you're a f***ing child. I can honestly say I hate people like you."...

Yet you can't find a single thing on the Internet to shut me up about the Aztecs.

So you rant off, promising to never return, and here you are, raving like the child you accuse me of being...

If there's nothing to what I say, then why are you compelled to keep coming back, what 4... 5 times now?

Yep, your rapier wit has torn me to little tiny pieces!

...putz

ZenGrouch said...

"Please control your penchant for speculation and your reference to the gene pool and purity it's beginning to give the Zen punk credability when he calls you a Nazi."...

Funny stuff...

Ohhhh, the Nazi might give lil' ol' Leftie me credibility.

But, he can never say anything outrageous enough for a fellow right wing-nut to disavow, his genetically superior ways!

THAT'S why you guys are stuck with that fat tub o' shit Limbaugh!

And Y'all complain about the Blacks, being unified behind ass holes!

ZenGrouch said...

"Crusader is correct in the case of the Aztec's brutality. I don't believe his numbers are quite that extensive in history, but the cutting out of hearts, human sacrifice, and other major brutality is a marked part of their society."...

So, he's correct, except for his claim about the numbers.

That's what got the Republican Party in trouble when they were in power.

Numbers? We can deal with the numbers aspect of the facts later on...

Besides, what are numbers anyways? 100 dead... 4,000 dead. Just numbers.

Yeah, so the Nazi is right, well except for the NUMBERS!!!

...ya' clown

ZenGrouch said...

"Let me give further context. I don't mean to sound hateful. I really want peace. I'm just so friggin angry at..."...

OK, right here is where he remembered what his "doctor" told him about controlling his breathing.

Breathe deep Crusader...

Out with the bad air...

In with the good air...

OK, slow it down some more...

...ya' fruitcake

ZenGrouch said...

"Because I gotta get a life and stop letting a douche like you get under my skin."...

Now I'm not a mental health care professional, but that "I gotta *GET* a life" is quite the give away!

...ya' lonely Nazi

ZenGrouch said...

"It's too bad that Zen's arguement is so hateful..."...

Yes, I know you feel that way, because after all, everyone knows that the Right Wing-Nuts are about nothing, if not all about peace and love for all of mankind.

...ya' transparent boob

ZenGrouch said...

"Bill Maher simply makes money on their fears and self loathing. Their fears, and his too, are directly related to their belief that they are the only ones who really care about themselves, that there is nothing out there that is loftier than their fears, and they revell in their narcissism..........


Talk about not being able to come up with an original thought if their lives depended on it...

Somewhere down the line, someone read these almost exact words, replaced the name Rush, with Bill Maher, then e-mailed it off to his 10,000 closest friends!

...ya' bleatin' sheep

ZenGrouch said...

Crusader...

YOU QUOTE **ZOOLANDER**!?

Now I'm really torn, as to who's dumber...

...you or Woofman


...fuckin' ZOOLANDER?!

Wolfman said...

Zenpouch, you really have to take your own advice in so many areas.

1) Take some breathing excercises.

2) Your name calling is childish and defeats any claim to rationalism.

3) IF you were concerned about the numbers you'd look it up, research it, if you know how to do that.

4) I'm beginning to believe that you're actually a child, and know certainly that you bear no more consideration.

ZenGrouch said...

Sorry Woofie...

If you're going to post bland crap, just for the sake of posting, pardon me if I don't respond to all of your posts...

..ya' breath of stale air

Crusader said...

I never listen to Rush Zendouche. I read books unlike you. How long did it take you to look up rapier? I dare you to do your own research. Please, try to find the truth. I'm not stopping you from doing your own research you lazy fuck. Or are you merely a contrarian who only has opinions that oppose others. You're a namecaller, not a debater.

Crusader said...

By the way, the numbers are correct Zendouche. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

Crusader said...

By the way Zoolander, the fact that you didn't get my analogy shows that you're Zoolander. "But why models?" You're so Zoolander. It's time for me to finally go out and get that life back that you don't have. I've got your momma right here. She thinks you're stupid too, although I can't understand her that well with my dick in her mouth. She told me you love to take it up the ass. I told her I wasn't gay, but she said you look so much like a girl it wouldn't be gay. I said I'll pass. I don't get with dumb sluts. The debate is over mudslinger. You wanna sling bullshit instead of having a reasonable conversation, you'll have mud slung back. You're a worthless nothing, an example of the inferiority of my enemies. The fate of my kind is glory. The fate of yours is oblivion.

ZenGrouch said...

"You're a namecaller, not a debater."...

And "Zendouche" was a simple keyboard error?

Look, I don't have proof that you're a Nazi.

However, you have many of the same ideas regarding genetic superiority that were held dear by the Nazis.

You're a little man living in fear, clinging to the ideals of the Right Wing-Nuts, just so you'll not feel so alone, and have people like Wuffman to stick up for your racist opinions.

You're not nearly as smart as you believe yourself to be.

You can't admit to making an error when you made a claim regarding the number of people killed by the Aztecs.

Not a big deal at all, but you refuse to admit to being wrong. You'd rather make a big fucking deal out of it, then berate me for not doing the research on my own. I did, and found NOTHING to back up the lie you now stand behind and own.

You use the tired old Republican "debating" techniques, as I've pointed out.

They work fine, if you're dumb enough. Then they fall apart when you're presented with actual LOGIC!

Original thought is a foreign concept to you and yours. You have your given talking points for your "debates" and that's it.

If someone goes off script, you stomp your feet and leave, too disgusted to deal with a debate that is WAY below you.

I persisted, and you kept coming back, truly perplexed as to why I kept bringing up that god damned Aztec thing?! Have *I* learned nothing, in the presence of YOUR greatness!

Yes, fool can't prove the negative... Why, oh why do you waste your time, coming back to such ignorance?

Learn to learn from your mistakes, or you'll go through life, looking like you do...

...a miserable fucking racist, coming to a Bill Maher site to pick a fight, with your bag of tricks, then play the abused victim when someone calls a spade a spade.

Besides, I like name calling when dealing with nozzles like you (who straps on the name Crusader, like it the derivative of the word, as Bush used it, was the smartest thing you ever saw, in your life), Wuffman and that demanding little gnat, Syd.

When you know you're dealing with ass holes, why waste time dancing the dance, before just cutting straight to the chase?

***You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones we really need to concentrate on*** -- G.W. Shit for Brains

ZenGrouch said...

"By the way Zoolander, the fact that you didn't get my analogy shows that you're Zoolander."...

I watched enough of that shitty movie to know that, you weren't watching it, because you're a fan of the hook nosed Jew, Ben Stiller. It's because you're a closeted homosexual.

Self loathing Nazi, no life, quotes Zoolander, it's all there son...

Come out of the closet and you'll feel much better about yourself.

ZenGrouch said...

I'll be checking back...

But if I don't respond, it's because I don't feel like stepping into the Right Wing-Nut circular logic trap.

Crusader is bating the thing with his claims of using the correct numbers, and nothing else.

Cyd the Kid said...

However, you have many of the same ideas regarding genetic superiority that were held dear by the Nazis.Funny. Of course, you have ample evidence of "genetic equality" at your fingertips, right? Please post this evidence so I may peruse it.

There is a plethora of examples that indicate genetic differentiation amongst the classic "races". I can and will post it for you, if you so choose. However, I want to see this genetic equality stuff that has you all up in arms and looking for Nazis under every rock. Thanks in advance.

ZenGrouch said...

Cyd...

There's a difference in saying races are different genetically because the Jews, Whites or Blacks may be more susceptible to specific diseases than other races...

...and the Nazi genetic superiority ideas of Whites being better than Blacks, because Blacks are so stupid, if the Whites didn't teach them anything they'd still be banging rocks together to communicate, instead of using cell phones.

BTW, find any Jew Boys or Non-Bible Thumping Chinks yet that think man use to have pet dinosaurs, like Dino?

...ya' stupid little Nazi Christian Soldier

Cyd the Kid said...

So, in other words Zen, you believe in genetic differences amongst races. Your big problem, apparently, is that these differences may show advantages for whites over some other races, namely blacks, and that has you torn. Understandable when ones entire belief system is based on faux equality ideology.

Tell me, why are there so many blacks in basketball? Why are the fastest 100 meter dash times held by West Africans? Environment? Wanting to get out of the hood?

ZenGrouch said...

I put the question to Crusader, he answered it, but not directly.

I guess the thing about Blacks being too stupid to evolve, pretty much was what I expected.

OK, how about you.

Are Whites genetically and intellectually superior to the Blacks?

If so, how about other races, are Whites the super race thanks solely to genetics and no other factors?

How about race mixing?

Does that just chaff your ass as much as it does Crusader?

And how about taste? Does a big nigger dick taste as good as a white man's cock?

...get back in your closet Nazi

Cyd the Kid said...

Do you always answer questions that are difficult for your ideology to reconcile, with inane questions? Do you always degenerate into some form of vulgarity in order to appear...cool? ...smart? ...witty? ...what?

Races: No, they are not equal, just like two people of the same family, and even identical twins are not equal. Racial differences are real and are reproducible.

Are whites superior? Your "ace in the hole" question. LOL Yes, in some areas and not in others. I couldn't care less if whites were as unproductive as anyone else. Whites are my distant kin while others are not. I have a general "closeness" to Europeans, ie whites over others just like I have a closeness to my cousins over strangers on the street. Do you have some problem with that? Does that make me a Nazi in your eyes? LOL

Race mixing: Not for me, though if others like that, so be it. The issue is not if others like it. The issue is that it is FORCED by government, media, and advertising. Despite all this effort to what should be natural, the major tendency is for people to mate with others of their own kind. Kinda shoots your egalitarianism and only Nazis hate race mixing out of the water. Most people, including non-whites, want to be with their own kind.

Unless yous a nigga and be lookin' for dem white bitches.

See, I can act ignorant at the tail end of my comment too. Am I cool now?

Nomad said...

Hi Bill,

American companies are sitting on the sideline in this economy!

Here’s a thought….

Since the Republican’s in this country have most of the money and are still reeling from their defeat in the election, shouldn’t we create tax incentives for individuals making more than $250,000 a year for starting new businesses?

It’s almost like the spoiled rich kid on the block who got mad at all the other kids and took his toys and went home!

It’s the traditional filter down economic theory at work here, except there’s nothing filtering down.

If we can’t get them to spend money in the free market economy and they have a real bone to pick with the Democrats, let’s throw some incentives at them where they live, their wallet!

I would almost bet that if we create a tax break for the rich in the incubation and start up of new businesses, we’d put a quick end to this recession.

P.S. Legalize and tax Marijuana and we’d be the richest country in the world!

Cyd the Kid said...

Hey Nomad, did you know when you switched the letters in your name around, they spell Moron?

Nomad said...

Hey Cyd,
Learn how to fucking spell, you moron! Go fuck yourself!

Nomad said...

Hey Cyd,
You must be a fucking Republican. I'll bet you're related to GW too. He's another fucking idiot. You should hook up you piece of shit!

Knout Greenginch said...

GOoP: today divorced from the Specter of reality.

Trying to understand the Taliban invasion of Pakistan, I substituted some names. When I replaced 'Pakistan' with 'us', 'Taliban' with 'yuppies', 'Mullah Omar' with 'Ronnie' and 'Osama' with 'W', their problems came into stark focus.

I get it now, I just wish the kush was somewhere safer... it may be facing extinction! We must get it on the endangered list.

Monad, US companies created this fake catastrophy & are at the trough. Having already consumed the college money of the US middle class for 2 generations, its gone way past cannibalism...

Knout Greenginch said...

Cyd,

Its Syd, and you aren't even close.

You seem very distraught, like a 40 year old vigin, or a loser with a string of ex-wives & alimony back payments. Either way, your future is dismal. Suicide is always an option...

Noone is going to miss you. Go ahead, I'll take full responsibility for suggesting it.

Emma Goldman said...

Bill

I am very impressed by the response to your op-ed. You have a real talent for telling the truth, too bad it brings out the worst in people.

As I read these posts of people defending their ignorance and other intelligent people defending themselves, I am most dissappointed. While these guys argue instead of together reaching for the stars, the planet is going away. The future is a limited offer, and the clock is running down.

Mojojojo said...

"You'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead, 18 fingered hand." - Bill Hicks


Bill, I don't believe in banning guns just because the least evolved can't handle them, but I have no problem with the responsible oversight of ownership of firearms.

The problem is, the state & fed governments have proven themselves to be irresponsible in any capacity other than whoring for their 'campaign contributors', which is why we have the 2nd ammendment in the 1st place.

Fernando said...

Hi Bill,
I saw your movie tonight and I would like to propose something a whole bunch of people already came up with, but I'll try: why don't you create your OWN religion!? Yeah, you could create doctrines that fit your desires, why not?
Just don't expect any donations from me. Religion is one thing, money is something else, hehehe.
Back in my country, we have a little stupid joke about religion: usually, religion says that "money doesn't bring happiness, therefore, give me ALL your money and BE HAPPY"!!!

Cyd the Kid said...

Hey Moron...err...Nomad,

Are you always this articulate? Two tirades to my one little comment? Hey, I didn't get under your skin, did I? You've got a real "poker face" where it's hard to "read" you. LOL

Cyd the Kid said...

You seem very distraught, like a 40 year old vigin, or a loser with a string of ex-wives & alimony back payments. Either way, your future is dismal. Suicide is always an option......

Miss Cleo, is that you? Hahaha

Kuntout,

While your psychic skills leave much to be desired, we can clearly see you have honed you looney act, if truly an act, to the level of wacko and edging ever so closely to clinically insane. Is this what passes for intellectual banter amongst the "limousine lickspittles" you hang with?

Wolfman said...

Emma....you really need to click your polyanna heels together and beam back to Kansas, or Telavive.

It's sad that people like you give people like Bill Maher fodder for their little revolt. IF it weren't for bootlicking liberals like you Bill Maher wouldnn't have an audience.

You speak of ignorance, yours comes shinning through, though cloaked in some Sister Theresa sense of philanthropy...sickening.

Philanthropy is usesless if the perpertrator is inefectual and ignorant themlselves. Get a life and realize that MR. BILL is really a resentful little child that hasn't gotten over his abuse by a little nun.....

mike m said...

Shaun Hannity said he would be open to letting himself be waterboarded. Perhaps he would also be open to "point and laugh" in the shower. Maybe forced masturbation with more point and laugh from a female soldier. How about being part of a naked, all male human pyramid? While he's wearing a pair of women's panties on his head? Perhaps a pair of J. Edgar Hoover's panties. Oh, I forgot, he wears them all the time, anyway, just not on his head.

This is the truly embarrassing shit the Bush people were responsible for. It should be absolutely clear to everyone, that this country was being run buy a bunch of adolescent boys who were terrified of the inadequacies of their own penises. It's like something from "Porky's".


The republican party is falling apart. I don't know if I should laugh or cry. Even Michael Smerconish said the republicans need to clone moderate republicans like Arlen Specter not force them out. Bill's absolutely right. They will just keep pushing further and further to the extreme until they are nothing more than a side show. Newt is a washed up has been. Steele, just isn't sure about himself or his role. Rush is an idiot. The only substantive thing I hear from the republicans is more deregulation (suspend marked to market)and more tax cuts for the wealthy. Everything else is just anti-Obama (do nothing). I laugh because it's fun to watch the republicans turn on their own, but I cry, because the only thing worse than a two-party system, is a one-party system, which seems to be the direction we are headed.

Pete Kropotkin said...

Alright children, lets all hold the human race back until the throwbacks catch up...

Mojojojo said...

I'm surprised you dipshits can read. All the time & effort you put into explaining your indoctrination, only to prove that you are morons.

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" You need to stop listening to Rush, get a job, pay taxes & move out of your parent's house.

satansez said...

Check out my thoughts billy, at http://satansez.blogspot.com/
love your work!

a lay cook said...

Maybe the Repubs ought to consider mushroom hunting...

The horror! The horror!
~Kurtz in James Conrad’s Heart of Darkness, later adapted to the film Apocalypse Now

Spring has sprung, and those intensely surreptitious, almost clandestine, morel hunts are in full season. The image is reminiscent of the geeky bird watcher played by John McGiver in Mr. Hobbs Takes A Vacation with Jimmy Stewart (1962). I recommend both the film and the morel hunt.

Now, this is the kind of retirement pursuit more befitting to the now suddenly visible Mr. Cheney than was upland bird gaming—furtive, undercover, with dark caches, and yet thankfully no lethal arms or ordnance at his disposal. He simply rounds up these fungal suspects and stows them in away in a black hiding place. As to his next step, torture…how he could conceivably torture a mushroom is beyond my bailiwick. No references to such tactics on these delicacies can be found in the revised U.S. Army Field Manual or the Geneva Convention that he so shamelessy disregarded with humans—with the penned duplicity of the now Hon. Jay Bybee and Prof. John Yoo. Perhaps he simply delegates away the torment in a feeble effort to display clean hands. Queries: What consideration (quid pro quo) is given in a torture contract? Is this a third party “beneficiary” arrangement? What are the specific terms and provisions of a torture agreement? Is it just a proverbial “wink and a hand shake?”

In my narrow culinary sphere, I do know beyond a reasonable doubt that repeatedly inundating fresh morels with water causes core damage and elicits little valuable information. All this technique causes is changeless damage to being.

Gordon http://alaycook.wordpress.com/

lens said...

To Butthead & Beavis

Are you nancy boys going to whine like this for the next 3-1/2 years, until your masters choose the next lying old fuck Commander & Thief who will be defeated in humiliation? You'll whining for another 8 years you tards.

Emma Goldman said...

I revisited this blog because I thought I was wrong, that Bill Maher does not bring out the worst in people, but that the crudity some people post in response to Bill Maher's truthfulness is the best that they have.

I come back to find infantile crossposts against me that underscore this truth. 'Wolfman'. You are a loser.

I am not a liberal, I am a constitutionalist: look it up, you obviously have nothing else to do.

ZenGrouch said...

I thought the spoiled little cunt Rush was funny, yelling, "Yeah! And take McCain with you!"

This piece of shit needs to be put to sleep...

...I mean for the good of the Republican party.

Personally, *I* hope that drug addicted cocktard lives to be a thousand, spewing *THAT* shit!

ZenGrouch said...

"Spring has sprung, and those intensely surreptitious, almost clandestine, morel hunts are in full season. The image is reminiscent of the geeky bird watcher played by John McGiver in Mr. Hobbs Takes A Vacation with Jimmy Stewart (1962). I recommend both the film and the morel hunt."...

One of my favorite scenes from the movie, which reminds me of any of a number of top Republicans and those they're suppose to be looking out for:

***I HATE Boompa!

Yeah?! Well Boompa hates you TOO!***

Blue Eyed Devil said...

zg - which piece of squatting monkey feces, there are so many?

Chill, that shrom thang is spamspamspamspamspam from some blogger.com payor. I found this a while ago when some tard punched about 6 in a row... the GOOG machine don't listen.

There is plenty real world for you to get bent about; this was not one. You hammer your nails straight. I'm impressed.

You are way smarter than these clueless trog kids. The best defense is see them as nails, and to treat them like people.

Watch BO. He does it well.

Maxliberty said...

Gee Bill, now that I'm in the minority, maybe the ACLU will stand up for my rights. It's not that I love my guns, I just see them as a useful tool that I may need someday. I live in the real world, not on some pedestal in Beverly Hills. The crime rate in my very diverse neighborhood is high and getting higher. I'm trying to raise a family, pay my taxes, pay for my health care and send my children to college. I'm not eligible for any government assistance in any of these areas because I own a home (the mortgage is higher than the current value), have a salary in the low 100k range and I’m white. Sorry, I shouldn’t inject race in this post, but you sure don’t seem to have a problem with it. If you think Obama is only going to raise taxes on 3% to 5% of the people, you’re living in a dream world. The 1.75 TRILLION dollar deficit this year will require the middle class to take on the burden. I know it’s not all his fault and I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is doing the best he can in a situation he didn’t bargain on, but you seem to have lost all objectivity and are totally Obamanized. I used to appreciate your quick wit and humor, but you have gone to such an extreme to degrade people with opinions that differ from yours. Heaven forbid that someone would desire to express their faith. Your sarcasm has evolved to hatred. You have become so bitter that you are no better than the pundits that proclaim Obama is anti-American because he bowed to a Saudi and shook hands with Hugo Chavez. My only hope and prayer is that someday the spirit of conviction will so over-power you that you will fall on your knees and cry out to God for redemption and salvation. May God then bless you and use you to bring peace between so called conservatives and so called liberals and help them both to realize that a country without God is a country without morals.

mike m said...

Maxliberty,

I believe you are suffering from something I call TAX FEAR

Low 100s, huh? Sounds pretty good to me. I'll give you some tax fear. I also live in a diverse neighborhood. Crime is on the rise, mostly from a group called The Latin Kings. I tell the local politicians, who are trying to clean up this town, if you want to get rid of the undesirables just raise property taxes. They'll move out real quick. But nobody wants to raise taxes. Instead, they think that if they beautify the downtown area, property values will go up, creating the same result. But, what good is downtown revitalization if all the stores are dollar stores, check cashing and Chinese takeout? So, they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, in the form of business property tax exemptions, and storefront refurbishing grants, in certain areas, taking money away from the school district. So, eventually they will need to raise property taxes anyway, to cover all these "incentives" that will have little effect on the desired outcome. So, I say, raise taxes first, run those criminals out, then do all of your revitalization. Then you'll be able to attract high quality businesses, boost the local economy and, in the long run, lower the tax burden. Higher taxes can actually be a good thing, if you do it right.

Wolfman said...

Emma,Emma,Emma, I'm sorry that you felt compelled to revisit this horrible blog, but maybe more like the moth to the flame, you were helpless.

Winning and losing, is only a figment of your imagination,they are transcendent ideas, and only temporary in their existence.
We all win, and lose, but I know more about you now. Losing is one of your greatest fears. This is not unusual for people who idolize people like Bill Maher.

I any event, Emma, you really need to get a grip, and discover yourself. I don't care what you "call" yourself. You need to know what you are before you can have the clarity to argue with any effect. Good luck in your endeavour.

Cyd the Kid said...

Emma,

While Wolfman has responded to you quite aptly, I felt the need to mention some things that are troubling to me.

You state:

I am very impressed by the response to your op-ed. You have a real talent for telling the truth, too bad it brings out the worst in people.

As I read these posts of people defending their ignorance and other intelligent people defending themselves, I am most dissappointed. While these guys argue instead of together reaching for the stars, the planet is going away. The future is a limited offer, and the clock is running down.
...

Then you state:

~~~ but that the crudity some people post in response to Bill Maher's truthfulness is the best that they have.

~~~~

I am not a liberal, I am a constitutionalist: look it up, you obviously have nothing else to do.
...

Twice you mention, Maher's "truthfulness" and then you mention you are a constitutionalist. I'm perplexed, Emma. How is it that Maher is so truthful to a constitutionalist when Maher is a self-proclaimed Marxist, and in reality, an outright Communist. His ideology is absolute equality, meaning everyone gets the same sort of living. This is quite a stretch from what a constitutionalist should stand for.

Another aspect to me being here is Maher wearing his anti-white bigotry on his sleeve. He loathes even saying the word and says it in such a manner that it excudes hatred and disgust. Are you anti-white too, Emma? Do you consider yourself white, if you are white, Emma? I assume you are using your real name and therefore you are Jewish. Does Maher being Jewish have any influence to his "truthfulness" in your eyes?

As Wolfman said, you need to reflect on your positions because as you stand now, you are one big contradiction.

ZenGrouch said...

Mike M...

Good point!

I'd also like to see some sort of floating tax increases on gasoline.

The oil companies are going to charge whatever they can get, then blame it on supply and demand.

That's bull, everyone knows it.

So, when they raise their prices to get what we're willing to pay, we also raise taxes proportionately with the increase in price.

Then let's take that money and dedicate it to fixing our crumbling infrastructure.

If the Republicans don't like it, well then, fuck 'em, they're irrelevant anyway.

ZenGrouch said...

"Losing is one of your greatest fears. This is not unusual for people who idolize people like Bill Maher."...

Fear of losing most likely comes from watching that slow motion train crash, called the Republican party, hit the self destruct button...

Yep, people learn from the Republican's mistakes. Mothers and fathers point to the Republicans and tell their children, "See, if you don't think for yourself, THAT can happen to you!"

So, it's not really a fear of losing, it's living with the stench left behind by the biggest losers on the planet, that the Left now has to clean up.

Read an article yesterday, about how the Republicans are going all out, to change their image, going so far as to poll the public to find out what they want!

If they don't know, they should have gotten the hint this past election!

And how fucked up and out of touch does a major party have to be, when they have to poll the public to find out what they need and want?!

...irrelevant on SO many levels!

ZenGrouch said...

"I any event, Emma, you really need to get a grip, and discover yourself."...

Like frenzied circle jerking has helped the Republican Party at all.

Sure, it feels good, but in the end, SOMEBODY has to clean up the mess you selfish jack-offs leave behind.

ZenGrouch said...

"As Wolfman said, you need to reflect on your positions because as you stand now, you are one big contradiction."...

...I hope that was as good for Woofman as it was for Cyd the Shid, reaching out in the darkness of the public shitter.

mike m said...

Be sure to check out my new blog.

Here

mike m said...

Zen, this was a response I made from another blog:


Tim,

I don't know where you get your facts from, but let me make it very simple for you.

Oil, coal and natural gas are fossil fuels. That means, just as sure as death and taxes, they will run out. We're seeing it happen right now, before our very eyes. Texas is empty. Prudhoe Bay, Alaska and the North Slope have seen production drop 75%. At best estimates, the oil in The National Wildlife Refuge will produce enough oil to last about a year in the US.

Chevron spends one hundred million dollars to build one oil rig, that will drill 5 miles into the Earth, and only has a 20% chance of hitting oil in The Gulf of Mexico.

Oil company engineers are working on a way to use steam to heat the ground (in Alaska) to loosen the the non-free flowing oil in the ground. How much energy does it take to heat the ground, that deep, in Alaska? I don't want to know.

The US has 5% of the worlds population, but we use 25% of the oil. However, more and more of the worlds population is using oil. At one time, everyone in China rode bikes. Now, in many areas, bikes are banned (for safety reasons). The world is using more oil, and production is dropping off. You don't need a degree to realize, that if demand continues to increase, and production continues to fall, we will be in a load of shit. We are already sending our young men and women to fight to protect our oil supplies in the Middle East. Not to mention all the money that goes to Saudi Arabia to buy their oil.

Now, what if I told you I could continually produce enough oil to supply all of our needs, with an area of land about 1/4 the size of New Mexico? What if I told you I could do it just about anywhere in the world, regardless of climate conditions. Would you say I was mad? I assure you, I may be a little crazy, but I am not mad.

Petroleum based crude oil was formed in the Earth millions of years ago. It comes from billions of microscopic organisms that once lived in the oceans. The pressure of the water, and the heat of the Earth's core, transformed these fossils into crude oil.

So, what if there was a way to produce these micro-organisms, say, in a greenhouse? But just specific strains of certain types of micro-algae, that have about 60% lipid content. Algae only require three things to grow: water, CO2 and light - that's all! And, that oil could be easily extracted using ultrasound. Then, by using a little alcohol, and a touch of lye, that oil could be refined into high quality biodiesel fuel. And, for every one unit of energy used to produce, three were returned. Yes, Americans can keep their giant SUVs. So long as they run on biodiesel.

This is not a dream. This is not a fantasy, this is happening right now, on a small scale.

So, what's the problem? Very simple - money. We need money to build the greenhouses and refineries. We have the technology. We have the need. All we need is the desire. And, of course, the money. So, why do we continue to spend money on wars and oil rigs when we know that the oil will eventually disappear?

Very simple. Exxon/Mobile is the number one Fortune 500 company and Chevron is number 3. That buys them an awful lot of power and influence. They don't want to see this happen. They want the supply to dwindle, while crude prices go through the roof. The rich get richer. They had their chance to develop this technology 30 years ago, but they passed. They said Prudhoe Bay will supply all of our needs for years and years - but they were wrong - very wrong. Now they are caught with their heads up their asses, and they don't want to admit their "miscalculation". Call it pride, ego or just plain greed. They see their future dwindling away, and they will do or say anything to keep it going one more day.

Every bit of misinformation about alternative energies and global warming are being spread by the oil companies through the right wing media.

So, as long as small minded people are manipulated by the oil companies, people with true entrepreneurial vision and aspiration, and a desire to be truly energy independent, will be pushed aside. But I guarantee, just as sure as death and taxes, there will come a day when you will need us.

ZenGrouch said...

Mike M...

Good Blog!

I've added it to the Zengrouch.com blog roll

Cyd the Kid said...

Zen,

Your potty mouth indicates a low intellect and lack of argument. Just and FYI, as if you do not already know.

I do believe you need to address substantive issues addressed to you before you go on to some "more comfortable" topics. I think you know what I mean. If you cannot handle dealing honestly with topics that directly oppose your ideological world view, then kindly STFU with all your other incessant natter.

ZenGrouch said...

Sorry Cyd...

The only thing my 'potty mouth' is indicative of, is my contempt for you and your kind.

As far as addressing substantive issues...

You can go fuck yourself, if you think I'm going to let a douche bag like you steer me into a Republicunt circular logic Merry-Go-Round, rather than, actually addressing substantive issues!Like the Lost Boys, Republicans trying to change their brand. In other words, turning their backs on what they were trying to be last week, so that they can try and become, something less... Loserlike perhaps?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/30/gop.rebrand/index.html

They're cute when they're scurrying around in circles, jumping ship, gnawing off each other's legs.

Nomad said...

Mike M

While you are trying to make it simple for others, let's straighten out the facts.

Oilwell fracturing engineers have been very successful with steam and chemical methods of moving oil around in a field and extracting it from the ground. As a matter of fact, horizontal drilling techniques combined with this technology has made oil in shale deposits throughout the US accessible for production.

The threshold for an oil company's profitable production is $45 a barrel. When the prices dipped, they stopped drilling. There are reserves all over this country. Look in the Dakotas, Pennsylvania, California, even Oklahoma is not drilled out.

There was a systematic leasing of minerals by oil companies throughout the United States before this recession. Three year leases for the purposes of drilling wells. I know this for a fact because I was handing out the checks.

We're not out of oil, they're just not drilling and producing it because they can't make money on it.

Wolfman said...

Zengrouch; you are the supreme example of the illogical, loudmouth, degenerate, that Bill Maher loves to pander to.

You are, along with your new hero, Mike with his head full of conspiracies, so indebted to the republicans for saving your unsubstantial life, and others like you, that you'll never realize it. You are a long line of convenient thinkers. You only go deep enough to suit you ideas of conspiracy and that all the american companies are the embodiement of evil. I know more about that subject than you, and can assure you that your view is myopic. IT's of course true in some respects, but hardly a generality.

You speak lightly of people in government and with revulsion, yet you would not be willing to serve under such scrutiny and anger?

You've mentioned (putz) before. You are psychic, in the sense that you've projected (Putz) onto others. When in reality, if you know what putz truly means, you will understand that you name yourself.
Putz; The leftover foreskin after circumcision.....There you go Zenputz....

ZenGrouch said...

Well, well, well Woofman...

You call Mike my new Hero, yet you berate me for claiming to know what is in your little black heart.

You're an easy read, especially after buddying up with your new Nazi, white supremacist Hero, Crusader!

...and would it kill you to just get to the point, or do you get your rocks off, draggggging out the subject, so we can all know that you're on top of things, such as the definition of putz?

...ya' putz

Oh, while we're still on the subject of dejected and rejected foreskins, where do you stand on the revamping of the Republican Party?

Think big red hats, and "WE'RE #1" foam hands might help?

...if there's a hell, I'm going there for enjoying the plight of the Republicunts so much.

But they deserve it.

ZenGrouch said...

Ya' know one of the things I really like about the first 100 days of Obama...

You rarely see or even hear of Joe Biden!

Remember the Bush years?

Cheney was right there, with his arm buried up Bush's ass hole to make his lips move, like the puppet he was.

We might as well have elected Mr. Ed, and shoved an ear of corn up his butt to make his lips move for Cheney to get spew the lines of his corporate masters.

Enron should really have been a warning to the American people...

ZenGrouch said...

"You speak lightly of people in government and with revulsion, yet you would not be willing to serve under such scrutiny and anger?"...

Remember the Clinton years?

Republicunts yelling "WAG THE DOG!" While Clinton was trying to deal with Obama?

The Republicans single handedly, taught every little girl the meaning of the word blow job, while managing to bring the Federal Government to a screeching halt, just to mess with Clinton for letting a pig suck his dick.

Sure, he's got awful taste in women, but I'm betting if he got caught giving knobbers in the Greyhound Bus terminal toilet, you'd probably let that one slide.

Right...

How dare I, for not giving the scum Republicans, the party of NO!, the respect they deserve.

...pffffttt

ZenGrouch said...

OK, so Clinton had sex with a fat chick.

...and the Republican'ts go wild.

Maybe it's because she was fat, maybe it was because it involved heterosexual sex, rather than the Gay stuff, the Repubs keep getting popped for in public toilets.

Whatever, they had their reasons for their witch hunt.

OK, so what is it that the Republicunts have against Obama?

They've been doggin' the man from day one?

What is your problem with him?

...oooooh yeah, it's that "original sin" for being a "Nigger" thing that's got your panties in a knot.

I mean read the posts in this topic alone and tell me that nobody on the Right has said a single word condoning White Supremacy.

Sure, Wuffman, told Crusader to tone it down, or he might give me credence in my portraying him as a Nazi...

...but that was hardly going against the actual concept of White Supremacy, the ass hole was spewing.

Yo' Cyd the Squid, care to comment on the topic at hand?

...ya' dry fuck

Cyd the Kid said...

ZenTurd,

While I enjoy watching you twist in the wind with your inability to address topics and direct questions, I must say I do grow tired of playing with such an infantile mind.

You state:

The only thing my 'potty mouth' is indicative of, is my contempt for you and your kind.

As far as addressing substantive issues...

You can go fuck yourself, if you think I'm going to let a douche bag like you steer me into a Republicunt circular logic Merry-Go-Round, rather than, actually addressing substantive issues!
Sorry ZenTurd, we do not deal with strawmen around my parts, only facts and truth. The facts are I have stated clearly and concisely what my ideas are and I would like you to pick out exactly what you find objectionable and why. You must be able to do that, at least, given your "contempt" where you are unable to remain civil and curtail your elementary vulgarity. I'm all ears to hear your great oration of how my beliefs have strayed so severely from "normal" thought,...ahem...like yours. LOL

Cyd the Kid said...

The Republicans single handedly, taught every little girl the meaning of the word blow job, while managing to bring the Federal Government to a screeching halt, just to mess with Clinton for letting a pig suck his dick....

I'm embarrassed to be a witness to such psychotic ramblings.

Clinton, the holder of the highest office of the world, in essence, shows his moral bankruptcy by having an extra marital affair with an underling barely in her twenties, yet it is HER fault (for not being up to the level deemed "hot" by ZenTurd) and the Republicans. Yes, it had nothing to do with maintaining respect for the office and lying about, under oath. It's the chick's fault and the Republitards.

Hahahahahahaha!

ZenTurd, please slink away into the lunatic abyss and spew no more. You are a liability to your "cause".

ZenGrouch said...

Tell you what Squid Boy...

Why don't you give me your most pressing question, you'd like my opinion on.

What one substantive issue, is really racking your little pinhead, to the point where you give a flying fuck about my "strawman" (whatever that is. More Republican slang or maybe a part of their secret handshake) opinion.

Come on, in 50 words or less, try and communicate the ONE thing you are really interested in at this point.

Then you can answer my question, regarding your learned opinion, regarding the Republicunts rearranging the deck chairs on the U.S.S. Rupubtanic.

Or maybe you can explain why the Party of NO, hates the president of the United States so much?

Cyd the Kid said...

Blue Eyed Devil,

*snap* *snap* *snap*

Yo, yo, yo, daddy-o. You're all cool and shit. When's the next poetry reading with the appropriate ganja to fully enlighten the mind?

Due to a warped infatuation with the mentally stunted, care to address any issues that would deserve a branding of "trog kids"? Of course we all "know" what you mean, coolio. Wink, wink. Give it go for yuks so we can be even more impressed with the "already understood".

ZenGrouch said...

"I'm embarrassed to be a witness to such psychotic ramblings."...

...yet HERE you are!

Am I begging YOU for your opinion, as you've done with me?

...you so funny!

Cyd the Kid said...

Why don't you give me your most pressing question, you'd like my opinion on....

Golly gee, ZenTurd, are gonna tell us? Are ya? Are ya? LOL!

Why do you condone Maher's anti-white bigotry? Why is that alright in your indoctrinated mind?

ZenGrouch said...

..."trog kids"?

"Strawmen"...

Sorry sweetie, I never bothered to learn Ubonics, and I'm not about to waste my time learning Limbaunics.

Cyd the Kid said...

Mojojojo states:

Bill, I don't believe in banning guns just because the least evolved can't handle them...

Just exactly who are you referring to when you state the "least evolved"?

ZenGrouch said...

"Why do you condone Maher's anti-white bigotry? Why is that alright in your indoctrinated mind?"...

To directly answer this question, I'd have to agree with the assumptions/lies posed in it.

Now, I've explained why Crusader is an White Supremacist, and that YOU haven't condoned his opinions, even though he is right here to answer your comments first hand.

Now, please show me your strongest evidence showing Mr. Maher to be bigoted against Whites.

Are you saying that he is not white, or that he loathes himself and his race?

...ya' all come back, ya' hear?

ZenGrouch said...

...oops

Make that last one:

"YOU **HAVE** condoned his opinions..."

not, "haven't"

...there's your crumb for the day. Now EAT IT!

Cyd the Kid said...

Now, please show me your strongest evidence showing Mr. Maher to be bigoted against Whites....

No need to answer a direct question, which you directly asked of me, with another question. I'm not childish enough to go down that path, fuck you very much.

Simply grow a pair and state you are a brain dead leftist lickspittle and be done with it, ZenTurd.

If you feign not seeing his bigotry, you are a liar.

If you cannot see his bigotry, you are an idiot.

Which one are you, ZenTurd? A bit of both, would be my guess.

ZenGrouch said...

Before you run off Cyd the Chum...

Answer me this...

Why do Rush and G.W. fight over who gets sloppy seconds whey they're out there blowing road kill?

Simple question son...

Oh, one other question, while you're still here.

How come Ronnie Reagan takes it up the ass from Hitler in hell, when that's his idea of Heaven?

Wolfman said...

Yeah...exactly what Cyd said!

Why do you, condone Bill's antiwhite bigotry? I bet ya can't explain it without displaying your unhealthy dose of self loathing!!

Cyd the Kid said...

Ummm...I'm not going anywhere, ZenTurd, much to your chagrin and hope.

Do you actually think you've bested me on anything from this thread that I need to "run away"?

Haaaahahahaha!

I'll be waiting on an answer or until your head explodes. Either one will suffice for me. ;)

ZenGrouch said...

Whatever Wuffman...

You've displayed that you can't deal with logic, and keep the Merry-Go-Round circling back to the loaded question!

OK, tell me this... How come, Bush got really drunk and fucked Barney to death?

I got a picture of him fucking that mutt on the homepage of my site at:
www.bushfuckedus.com

Photographic proof right there!

Where's your proof that Maher is bigoted against whites?

...BARNEY!!! CALL AN AMBULANCE! HIS BOWELS ARE ALL OUTSIDE AND JUST LAYING THERE!

Cyd the Kid said...

Oh, and another thing, are you that mentally (who knows physically too) impotent that you think poking fun at Republicans is somehow "hurtful"?

LOL!!

Man, laughter truly is the best medicine!

Cyd the Kid said...

Stand back, ZenTurd's anti-psychotics are apparently wearing off!

LOL!!

ZenGrouch said...

Is that in the Right Wing-Nut play book?

When all else fails, be a douche bag?

You asked a loaded question.

I asked you to explain the assumptions.

You can't.

You lose!

Thank You! Come again!

ZenGrouch said...

"Man, laughter truly is the best medicine!"...

That's another thing that's in the Republicunt play book.

Since they refuse to allow U.S. Citizens access to affordable health care.

Cyd the Kid said...

HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I lose? Based on what? You saying so? Is that all it takes in the land of lunacy and liberal ideologues with no substance? Apparently.

Cyd the Kid said...

What "playbook" are you always speaking of? Do you always have these feelings others are out to get you? LOL

You are done, ZenTurd. Take a bow and clean the crap off your face. It's beginning to stink.

ZenGrouch said...

"Stand back, ZenTurd's anti-psychotics are apparently wearing off!"...

Ohh...

That's probably similar to the very last though going through Barney's head...

...right before that drunken maniac Bush fucked him to death!

Cyd the Kid said...

When all else fails, be a douche bag?...

LMAO!

Oh the irony, she is so rich with this one!

ZenGrouch said...

"What "playbook" are you always speaking of? Do you always have these feelings others are out to get you? LOL"...

Well YEAH!

For about the past EIGHT FUCKING YEARS!

But I'm much better now!

Thank you for asking.

Cyd the Kid said...

I'd like to personally thank you, ZenTurd. Thank you for showing the world the vacuous mind of the leftist, Maher follower.

It was as if you were on the payroll, or something...

LOL!

ZenGrouch said...

"We Did Not Torture Anyone"...

Is Condie a liar or a total fucking idiot?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/04/caught-my-eye-c.html

I'm guessin' Bush forced her to lie like that...

...right after he made her bury his dog.

ZenGrouch said...

"Thank you for showing the world the vacuous mind of the leftist, Maher follower."...

Oh My!

The WORLD is watching eh'?

I had no idea you thought so highly of Mr. Maher's blog...

...ya' cum stain

ZenGrouch said...

"It was as if you were on the payroll, or something..."...

I WISH!

I'm available and not too proud to sweep floors at CBS, if the pay is right.

I charge much less for non-sweepin' jobs.

ZenGrouch said...

"I charge much less for non-sweepin' jobs."...

Before any of you Right Wing-Nuts get any ideas...

...no, wasn't talking about *that* kind of job.

...ya' sick fucks

Cyd the Kid said...

Before any of you Right Wing-Nuts get any ideas...

...no, wasn't talking about *that* kind of job.

...ya' sick fucks
...

You said it. You thought it. Yet, we are the "sick fucks". More circular logic from the lunatic left.

Go Zen-ny! Go Zen-ny! Go Zen-ny! LOL

ZenGrouch said...

Geeze, I go to the bother of posting a

**NOTHING GAY HERE, MOVE ALONG...**

sign, to spell things out for you Repugs...

...and here YOU are sniffin' around, giggling like a school girl.

ZenGrouch said...

That was quick!

Obama will be picking his first U.S. Supreme Court judge early on in his *first* term.

Wolfman said...

I'm done with your infantile, and continouse stupidity Zen. Besides, you neek to get back to Mr. Maher to refuel, your ineffectual ejaculations are pitieful........

As for Mr. Maher, as I've said before, he's a squirming little sole of a man, writhing in his own filth. When I saw those pictures of Jews when watching the old Nazi propaganda films, I didn't think they existed....Hmmmmmsurprise Surprise. Now I know that the propaganda portraits were right, the hooknosed, dirty soul, jew has come to life.......ah well live and let live, except that he's go a show, a following, that makes him dangerous.

Mojojojo said...

I believe that in the intent of separating church from state, church tithing & donations should not be tax write offs. This practice is detrimental to charities that give back to the community without religulous discrimination, as demonstrated by Rick Warren's gay two stepping. What an idiot.

In fact all churches should be taxed, just like other legal scams, most notably insurance, investment banking and unemployment benefits.

You mentioned reincarnation. These 'greed' crimes all source from the lowest chakras.

Apparently America has mistakenly trusted the western education tradition intead of enlightenment.

Now that W has been brought Harvard down to the brand recognition of Walmart or Carl's Sr., maybe we can get the stoopit to vote for the brainy nerds they be afearin.

Mojojojo said...

zengrouch,

It came up during the election cycle to expect 2 new justices during this admin. Since they outlive the other, leeching branches, this is kind of important...

Yup, Candi is a backstabbing idiot. As I recall Coli Powell was the voice of reason in the W party, so the hawks engineered his ouster & Candi the submissive took his chair. The DoD, NSA & CIA are under the SoS, so she has a lot to answer for; she'll hang with W & Cheney.

Crusader said...

By the way, once again to show I'm a person who thinks with his own mind, I voted for Obama. That's right. Try to peg me down as an outright Nazi now. McCain was a warmonger reliving the Cold War who was actually old enough to not care if he destroyed the world, especially my favorite part of it (ie: America, Europe, Russia) in a nuclear holocaust. I actually like Obama's style. I just wish he would've done the proper thing a couple days ago and close the borders so that the MExicans don't come pouring over here with their diseases and drug cartels when their state fails. And, if their state fails, it will be their own fault. They're overbreeders. Mexico has plenty of resources, including their beautiful coastlines. That being said, Bush and McCain were both Mr. Amnesty and Bush started the whole bank bailout. But, Obama is continuing it. That's bullshit. Banks don't produce anything, especially the Fed. The Fed should be shut down immediately. They print worthless paper and then dare to charge us interest for it. We can print our own money without having to pay interest. Money is meaningless, a mere symbol of something true, productivity. The great depression never needed to occur. There should be no such thing as inflation or deflation. Money is merely meant to lubricate the flow of goods and services. When there's not enough, we print more. When there's too much we print less. It's that fucking simple. All else is a cup game, played by you know who to rip us all off. Wake the fuck up!

PS: I also voted for Kerry and Gore. Would any right-wing nut even lie about that? I think not. It is the God's honest truth. Both parties are Bullshit. One must always choose between the giant douche and the turd sandwhich. So, once again, just because I have some hardcore, truth-based opinions, does not mean I'm some party loyal little gremlin, or a NAzi who can't look past someone's skin to the content of their character. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

Mojojojo said...

Dog-man,

Throw on a hood and go whine to your racist friends.

Crusader said...

So, to sum it up, in case you didn't understand what made me mad at Maher in the first place, it's that he targeted whites as being left behind and teabaggers, which I'm proud to say I was - teabagger that is. I was at the tea parties because of what both Bush and Obama were doing, Bush having started it, which is waste the fuck out of our money and sell our country out to the banks. I also hated the wasteful war in Iraq and I damn well don't want war with Iran. Bush started the bank bailouts, and you might wonder where were all the tea parties then. Well, that was at the end of Bush's presidency, when he was less than a lame duck. By the way, the bank bailout was a Democrat-led thing, with their great ally Bush, who teamed up with the Democrats on Amnesty for illegal immigrants as well. As wasteful as the thus far 600 billion dollar war in Iraq is, it's nothing compared to the TRILLIONS dollar bailout of the useless banks. I went to the tea parties as a fuck you to the government period, not Obama. I still love you Bill, even though I'm sure you'll judge me. As much as you piss me off sometimes, I'll still watch your show as I have for five years now. I've been in your live audience. You just need to understand that your at home crowd is far more diverse then the liberal LA crowd there live.

Crusader said...

I also likes it the ganja and I absolutely agree that we should legalize it. :)

Cyd the Kid said...

Now that W has been brought Harvard down to the brand recognition of Walmart or Carl's Sr., maybe we can get the stoopit to vote for the brainy nerds they be afearin....

W brought down Harvard and not the legions of AA entrants? Unbelievable, the prattle you are willing to put forth in order to make facts fit your ideology. Coming from a real Bush critic, as I did not like much of his presidency, I still would put his IQ scores up against Obama's any day. Bush, inarticulate at times, appeared to me as a man with intelligence. Obama knows how to read a speech, though his thinking ability on his feet leaves much to be desired.

His presidency so far is propped up by the media and cultists like Zen, Maher, and yourself. A huge debacle was the recent Air Force One fly by in NYC. Clearly a "no one at the wheel" moment for Obama, yet the media buried that faster that Jimmy Hoffa. Obama (and Biden) will continue to show their stupidity through gaffe after gaffe where it will be impossible to hide any longer. Regardless, the economy will be his albatross and his policies thus far will cement the economy nose diving further than this past winter. You can take that to the bank and it will be a much awaited site to behold.

ZenGrouch said...

"By the way, once again to show I'm a person who thinks with his own mind, I voted for Obama. That's right. Try to peg me down as an outright Nazi now."...

Sorry dude...

You proved yourself to be a Nazi White Supremacists, whose just about as relevant as the Republican Party at the present time.

Even your timing is the same...

Just as they're trying to revamp their image with lies...

SO ARE YOU!!!

***Hey I'm not a racist...
...some of my best friends are niggers, I even voted for one!***

...ya' crazy goose steppin' fuck

Cyd the Kid said...

Mojojojo from yesterday:

Bill, I don't believe in banning guns just because the least evolved can't handle them...

Just exactly who are you referring to when you state the "least evolved"?

ZenGrouch said...

"Coming from a real Bush critic, as I did not like much of his presidency, I still would put his IQ scores up against Obama's any day. Bush, inarticulate at times, appeared to me as a man with intelligence."...

You're only saying that, because Bush makes the people who voted for him look like a freakin' genius!

."A huge debacle was the recent Air Force One fly by in NYC."...

At least it didn't kill anyone.

9-11 happened not without warning on several levels, which were ignored BY BUSH, ON BUSH'S WATCH!

Bush is a murderer, and anyone who defends him is a stupid ass hole.

But that's just my opinion.

...ya' stupid ass hole

ZenGrouch said...

"Just exactly who are you referring to when you state the "least evolved"?"...

Geeze, take a hint.

It looks like you're being ignored.

...ya' sleazy little troll

ZenGrouch said...

I would ***LOVE*** to see Obama nominate Bill 'pig fucker' Clinton as our next U.S. Supreme Court Justice.

If for no other reason than to piss the Republicunts off for the next couple of decades.

mike m said...

Wow, looks like I've been missing all of the fun around here. I've been busy working on my own blog

I miei due centesimi (My Two Cents)Nomad,

I don't know what your point is. Are you actually trying to make a point or just trying to confuse people into thinking that there's enough oil here in the US to supply our needs for generations to come. Pennsylvania? Are you kidding me? They barely have enough to keep Quaker State in business.
I'm sure steam is very effective. I didn't say it wasn't. My question was: How much energy is needed to produce that steam, to heat the frozen ground in Alaska?

Give me the fucking money, and I, personally, will produce enough algae oil to supply this entire country, with biodiesel, indefinitely!!! No bullshit. No poking around here and there, destroying the natural wilderness. No going to war. No spills that Mother Nature can't take care of herself. In fact, I challange you. I will drink a glass of biodiesel, if you drink a glass of petrol diesel. Which one of us will be around to tell about it?

mike m said...

Nomad,

I know this for a fact because I was handing out the checks.

I think you are going to need a new job. Maybe you can come work for me building greenhouses.t

Nomad said...

Mike M,

Sounds like you're already drinking too much of that stuff. Thanks for the job offer, but I own the oil company. Next time I drill a well, I'll think about you. As far as your Green business, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

mike m said...

Wolfuck,

You are, along with your new hero, Mike with his head full of conspiracies,

You think you can write me off as some kind of conspiracy nut. Because of what I say about the oil companies? I'm in it, up to my elbows, and I see first hand what these fucking oil companies are up to. I'm competeing with over 800 other people for a measly $1,000,000 (x 20) grant from the DOE, for biomass research. Cap and trade? I hope the fucking Democrats shove down your throats and up your fucking asses!!!

ZenGrouch said...

Nomad probably knows what he's talking about.

We have oil, it's just that OPEC is keeping the price of oil, just low enough to make it unprofitable to get to.

Laws and regulations in the U.S. make the process of discovering and bringing to the surface, oil, too costly, if we can purchase it from a country where they care little about the environment or safety of their workers.

I've been to the U.A.E. where they look at workers from poor countries and laugh, saying, "Those poor fools literally work themselves to death in the heat of day." And that's no shit, it gets hot in the summer, and those poor fucks do indeed die, like dogs in the streets.

Anyway, Opec isn't stupid. I worked in the oil fields in the Gulf and around Louisiana, until OPEC lowered the prices enough to put the companies that support the larger oil companies out of business.

Anyway, you claim that bio-fuel is a practical option.

If it were, couldn't you prove this on a small scale, with limited funding? Perhaps using backyard swimming pools, or small ponds or lakes?

Then with the profit you'd make from the small operations, you could increase your capacity.

If no large investors are interested in your concept, it sounds like you could clean up on your own.

mike m said...

Nomad,

Speaking of shit, you are so full of it your eyes are brown.

If you do own an oil company, tell me, what is Chevron doing with the NREL?

mike m said...

Zen,

There are some hurdles. But in the past 6 months or so venture capital overall declined about 6%. However, venture capital for green companies jumped about 60%.

All those "backyard" people, are just using old antiquated technology. Costs are about $20/gallon. I'm hoping I can do it for about ten on the pilot scale, and get that down to about 5 with full commercialization.

I, personally, have developed my own technology. Well, its in the development stage. I can't go into very much detail, because the patents are in the process of being approved. If you are interested in some of the newer technologies check out Wageningen University in The Netherlands. They are going to beat us to the punch if we don't start moving.

ZenGrouch said...

Mike...

A few years ago, I thought I'd be saving the western hemisphere a shit load of energy, with a patented product, manufactured in Taiwan, that I was the rep for on this side of the world.

Before going from businessman to failed businessman, I've learned a few things.

Nobody in the Government, or working for the utilities, wants to help you.

They have one job, and that's protecting their job, and looking busy.

They produce NOTHING!

My dealings with the DOE, both over the phone and visiting D.C. were futile.

Perhaps if I would have taken more people to "Lunch"...

I always had the distinct feeling that people wanted something they weren't asking for. Something as a small businessman I couldn't afford anyway.

This all took me back to when I worked for a company in Louisiana specializing in supplying chemicals to the oilfield, along with Mud Logging equipment and technicians.

They knew how to play the game to stay in business, with frequent trips to D.C. with their Mardi Gras trinkets, and hookers that were on the freaking payroll, like all their family members, both close and distant. While people like me, doing the real work, got paid shit...

I wish to Jebus that could somehow change.

We need to start looking at those welfare bastards collecting a Government check at the DOE, find out exactly what they are doing to earn a salary, THEN FIRE THEIR USELESS ASSES!

Fuck, we're all screwed, when we got lobbyists in D.C. running around in the daylight, like they aren't vermin of the worst kind!

...MOTHER FUCKERS!

Oh yeah, good luck getting funding from the DOE!

And a word of advice. If you ever visit D.C. bring along your good looking "sister" who...

...well, you know what I'm getting at.

mike m said...

Zen,

Thanks for the advice! I'm well aware of the people at DOE. Hopefully I can just get the money and run. I'm not naive. I don't expect to finance my company with DOE, DOD and NSF grants. My thinking is, is that if I can secure at least one grant, I will be able to attract venture capital. I don't have the alphabet soup after my name. I am however, on an NSF advisory panel - old college professor got me on. It's going to happen, I just get a little frustrated.

ZenGrouch said...

Mike...

I'm not sure of the concept, but guessing the main ingredient to your recipe is algae.

If so, is there room in your process to reduce existing CO2 by filtering it through your growth suspension?

That is one thing the tiny minds in the Gobment can wrap their heads around.

If you claim to do something about carbon dioxide levels, their little ears perk up.

Something else I noticed, in working with government and the utilities, is that the engineers you're dealing with, really do have engineering degrees, I've checked it you, but they are as dumb as fuck, when it comes to knowing what they're suppose to know in their fields...

...Oh, now I just got a bunch of university grads up in arms, for daring to belittle one of their own.

The cocksuckers I dealt with at So. Cal. Edison, were some dumb motherfuckers.

mike m said...

If so, is there room in your process to reduce existing CO2 by filtering it through your growth suspension?

YES! My system does not pump externally supplied CO2 into a "bubble column". That totally defeats the purpose, in my opinion. I take it right out of the air using a laminar "once through" type airflow system. My system concentrates on effectively using light in such a way as to boost the photosynthetic efficiencies of the algae. My background is in photonics/optics.

ZenGrouch said...

Mike...

A suggestion if I might.

Well, a statement first.

A patent is just a license to sue, so beware of big companies. Especially, the ones who want copies of your patent before anything else.

Screw the big companies.

It sounds like you're working on a patent.

That's good, keep moving forward.

But in the mean time, go to NOLO.com and order their book "Patent Pending, in" I don't know something like 24 hours or a week, whatever, get the book. NOLO.com is a great source of do-it-yourself legal books.

I spent time in Crystal City doing my own patent research on something not related... fun stuff... you can handle patents that Thomas Edison signed.

Well, it's probably all different now, and can be done from a computer. But it was great, going through the actual physical patents/applications.

Anyway, get your idea patent pending.

Next, make up a pretty presentation.

Then, contact investors who are big enough to help you, but not so big that they're going to fuck you up the ass first chance they get.

Beware of everyone, they're all out to get you, if you let 'em.

mike m said...

I worked at Edmund Scientific for a few years back in the 80s, assembling telescopes, and grinding parabolic mirrors, while working on my degree.

ZenGrouch said...

Another suggestion Mike...

When you contact the DOE, maybe present your project as a process to lower carbon dioxide levels...

...where the *by-product* is a bio-fuel.

It might confuse 'em enough, to really get their attention, and not have them worry about supporting a project that goes against the current petrochemical lobbyists.

mike m said...

Thanks. Got it covered. I ain't fucking around on this. I already own a small construction company. And anybody that owns a business in NJ knows, you are going to need an attorney. Mine was President of the NJ State Bar. And he's an old family friend.

ZenGrouch said...

Edmund Scientific?!

I worshiped their catalog, when it was still way into the nerd zone.

Back before they came out with a separate Optics catalog...

Their GSR sensor kit helped me train myself to make a lie detector's needle do whatever I pleased!

mike m said...

I'm not really too concerned with the DOE, because it's coming from the Golden CO. office, which is where the NREL is located. I need to stay on point, those fuckers know a lot!

mike m said...

Yeah, Edmund Scientific. I grew up within walking distance of it. Well, a long walk, but doable. They had a retail store with all kinds of neat stuff from high powered telescopes to Sea Monkeys. And they had a little theater in the back where they had a light show, highlighting the their products. That was before all those "laser light shows". They also had a periscope from a WWII Jap sub in the entrance. That's all gone now. Now they just sell bulk optics. However, I think they are supplying optics for the new telescope that is going to replace Hubble.

Nomad said...

Mike,

Who gives a shit what Chevron is doing!..It comes down to the small oil companies leasing minerals and drilling wells.

Why do you assume that's all we do?
We've completed two wind farm projects in the last year in Oklahoma and Texas. Each farm has over 100, 3.5 megawatt generators, running in the windiest areas of the country producing enough electricity for over 100,000 homes.
That's every single day with only maintenance costs.

The little companies in the energy business are the future of this country. We're currently are working on a Biodiesel formulation made from Jatropha Curcas, google it. It produces fruit every year and yields more per acre planted than most crops in the U.S. Five acres would yield enough bio-fuel for an entire farm for the year.
Imagine farmers with no fuel costs.

Chevron looks for offshore reserves of OIL like all the other big companies. The only reason they invest anything in renewable energy is because of the tax credits.

If your concept is that profitable, run a business plan by me, I have investors. Maybe you should consider a company that is already in the business to help with your funding.....And really, biofuel at $5 a gallon, it won't work unless you can get it down to around $2.
Jatropha can already be pressed for around $1 a gallon, the other buck is the profit....your cost is $5????

ZenGrouch said...

Nomad...

I've got nagging doubts, about what you've posted, but for the sake of conversation, I'm going to put all that stuff on a back shelf and communicate with you, as though you're what you present yourself to be...

I've always wondered about wind farms, that seem to do well away from major population centers, where there is a loss of current due to the transmission process.

Has anyone done serious research into using isolated wind farms, where wind is plentiful, land is cheap and nobody's around to complain about all the dead birds, to produce hydrogen for use in fuel cell technology?

Seems like if you have a water supply, a company could produce easy to store and transport hydrogen. Using wind power to both produce the gas, then compress it into a liquid.

Then tanker trucks could send it to where it's needed.

Or, are transportation costs too high?

Or, hasn't hydrogen fuel cell technology gotten to where it needs to be?

mike m said...

Just for your information, Chevron is working with the NREL to produce jet fuel from algae.


As far as Jatropha Curcas. 27-40% oil just from the seeds? Algae is 60% of the entire yield. And it doesn't need to be pressed to extract the oil. There are ultrasonic methods being used. And I can grow algae anywhere in the world, except maybe the arctic circle.

Jatropha has one significant downside. Jatropha seeds and leaves are toxic to humans and livestock. This led the Australian government to ban the plant in 2006. It was declared an invasive species, and ‘too risky for Western Australian agriculture and the environment here’ jatropha is presently limited to tropical climates.

Two plants heavily promoted on the Internet as a source plant for biodiesel oil have been
banned throughout Western Australia by the Agriculture Protection Board. The Bellyache
bush (Jatropha gossypilfolia) and physic nut (Jatropha curcasa) are already on the
Declared List, but their status has now been upgraded to ensure a State wide ban.

$2/ gal? It's $1/ gal just for the transesterfication.

Nice try.

Crusader said...

Hey Zendouche, I wasn't addressing you. I was addressing the people who read this site, so they don't think I'm either for or against republicans. I don't want to represent republicans, nor be associated with them. So eat a dick you fucking irrelevant faggot. You fucking arrogant moron. Get a fucking life

Nomad said...

Zen,

The problem with Hydrogen right now is storage. We need a comapany to produce affordable fuel cells too.

The real exciting possibilities are in cold fusion. I think it's possible it could emerge as the winner in the alternative energy.

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