Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Country First
Whenever we do an editorial chastising America for not living up to its potential, there are complaints. Complaints that I blame America first. Which is silly - I'm not "blaming" America in any particular order. I'm simply of the belief that nothing gets better until you see the problem for what it really is. Republicans have become the party of red, white and blue rose colored glasses. By drowning out criticism with USA! USA!, they prevent this country from healing itself where it needs healing, and that is the opposite of Country First. For those who disapproved of Friday's editorial about Europe and America, here are two others of similar ilk to choke on :)
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 901 Newer› Newest»I am going to name 'Mark Twain' as the first ccr spy again us.
Mark, give me a bullet list of things you want.
Do you really want to see capitalism in action?
Godammit, I miss Jimi!
The word is Justice. You want it as much as me.
I am quite blown away, that we can talk about Ayn and Rubin, together.
Go, go! you are it! As high as you can, as far as you can, as long as you can, as fast as you can, as far as you can!
So you're an admitted wuss - big deal. I'm betting the sun still rises.
George C, I've been reading your entries since last night. YOU are my hero![alongside Bill M. of course] and I have the utmost respect for you and your experience.
MarkTwain? You are't worth the time...GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
MEOW said the Cat!
Speaking of kittens, Katie, where have you been?
I'm trying to keep up with George and S.'s posts, but there are only so many hours in my day. :)
I heart Obama cause he hearts me.
Sorry, I'm not as deep as George and S.
Hello smart people who are down with the times. As I sit here blazed out of my mind watching the news while the stock market fluctuates I find entertainment in my frustration with the republican party. The way they are able to mislead the "Real America" is actually quite amazing. I cannot help but have an image in my mind, the November blockbuster staring McCain and Sarah drowning in a Jaws movie. Except in this movie Palin is saved by Joe the Plumber, and good ol' Johnny is taken down to the deep blue leaving a trail of republican red. I cannot help but laugh. During which Sarah and Joe are walking off into the distance to spread the word about how bad it is to share with thy neighbor. Thats funny cause the concept of whats mine is mine so fuck off has been working so well in this country. Anyway Keep on Rockin' in the Free World, my high is wearing off and I need to do something about it. Later
Buz you chowderhead, you are a lick.
A lick is the difference between a cunt and an asshole; about an inch and a half.
Connor, I am so blazed all the time that I have to check my posts to see what I said, and what I saved for tomorrow.
Tomorrow never cums, but when its today I am ready to do the job and take the afternoon off, to fuck Becky.
One night when I was 21 I called Ken Kesey, I was blazed out of my face; his family brought me down.
We are real! Janine is one of us!
and Buz, the sun always shines, even when you are on the dark side. What I do for cashola is write software, but my hobby is astrophysics - to be exact, cosmology. I am rich, through the effort of my mind, dealing with scumbags like wilber, who attempt to cheat me daily.
So Buz, when I say 'fuck you' I mean, die. There will be no Buz in tomorrow,
I'll make sure of that.
"I had the privilege to meet Abbie Hoffman."
I hate to tell you but meeting a guy who tried to levitate the Pentagon with his mind isn't much different from meeting a bag lady.
My last 2 posts are not here; I think Jr's cheats have arrested my comm.
Stay tuned.
I didn't realize I was so popular but, at least it's not for vulgar name calling.
:(
MarkTwat,you really sre a moron! I was 11 years old when that shit was going on,and even I know it WASN'T Abbie Hoffman who tried to
levitate the Pentagon! It was..well
hell,why should I be the one to enlighten you? But keep it up,you
stupid dipshit,you're good for a laugh if nothing else!HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
October 21, 1967
Glad you like my site George!
Sometimes I wish I would have kept it updated...
But looking at it now, it's almost like a time capsule, back in the day when I felt like I was pissing into the wind and nailin' my TV with my empties.
I am a patriot, i love this country for people being allowed to say what they want. my problem with the far left is that they don't seem to realize that the right should be allowed to voice their views as well. i am waiting for the person who says, who cares how we got here lets just fix it.
George, thanks for the advice, I don't think I will display my private info, although I don't usually mind doing that, since I think I'm pretty respectful when talking to people.
As for the interview, I actually delayed it, so it's tomorrow morning.
I've been thinking of Ayn Rand.
Even though there's something wildly attractive about this version of conservatism, because in my mind, that would correspond to no frontiers, no armies, no wars.. There's something she doesn't take into consideration : nature. Some people are born less smart, or autists or with Down's syndrom (which Mccain didn't get right about Palin's son btw :)) or even the old. How do you deal with them ? There doesn't seem to be any room for them in her vision of the world. Would that mean that they would be left to natural selection ? ie dying ?
How do you feel about that ?
On another hand, I've read some (really basic) stuff about Noam Chomsky. Am I wrong to assume he's on the same level as her ? What do you think ?
S. (is not my socrates btw, it's just my initial :))
PS I think Marky is on our side :)
Mark : I tried the link to your blog and it doesn't seem to work. I just had time to see the quote: (...) everyone who doesn't grow up gets to be vp... lol
Sam,
I'm sorry I'm an outsider (not american), but I just saw your comment, and since I've been following US politics since 11/09/01 : isn't Obama saying "who cares how we got here lets just fix it"? He's not criticizing all republicans, and from what I've heard, he's in touch with lots of them (chuck hagel ?), he's specifically criticizing Bush, isn't he ?
as an outsider, I feel he's the one being attacked as being muslim, a terrorist, an arab, a socialist, an extremist, a liar. Today, I watched a CNN video of the mccain campaign focussing on him being 'friendly' with some american-palestinian teacher at the university of Chicago, which would apparentely make him somehow an antit-jewish person ? I believe Bush and Cheney are friendly with the Ben Laden family ? On sept. the 11th, didn't they around 40 members of the Ben Laden family outside the US ?
I feel he's the one being attacked.
And one more thing, because this got stuck in my throat after hearing all the stupidities McCain and Palin have been throwing out there: in times of economic growth, there's a good level of consumer confidence, so there's no problem in cutting taxes for companies. It's all good.
In times of crisis, there is NO consumer confidence. Ie no consumption, ie less outcome for companies, ie job cuts. That's Obama's point.
In times of crisis, it's the smart thing to do to cut taxes on middle class (being the largest class, ie the largest category of spenders), that actually allows Mccain's dear companies to sell, keep producing,ie keeping jobs. That is not socialism in my opinion (I happen to have a BA in economics and an MBA so I'll just dare to give my opinion, if I may - although AGAIN I know I'm an outsider, so with probabbly with less oversight than you or anyone else here), that is the only way to go in times like these. It's not the middle class versus the huge corporations. The middle class IS the huge corporations' client. In times of crisis, they simply reduce consumption. The top-down approach may work very well in growth periods, but the bottom-up approach is the only solution in times of crisis. That's why working in cycles is very good (republicans / democracts).
Another point about the bullshit I've been listening to from Bush's advisers and others on CNN : taxes are HARDLY the reason companies shift jobs overseas. They shift jobs overseas, simply because working force is less costly, because there are less environmental, security, social and workforce regulations. Whatever you do, if you're an industrialized country, you will NOT be able to compete with that, thus the delocalizations. Taxes are the tip of the iceberg.
S.
Tanya :)
I'm thinking of getting a cat (for real) this saturday. Care for suggesting a name ? :)
And I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm really not deep lol !! Just a regular person, who happens to put herself in other people' shoes, regardless of religion, nationality or the rest of the all the BS :)
S.
Bill, I was out of town last week and
caught you show, the one with Martin Short, Ben Afleck, and the Socialist.
I was amazed at all of crap that you guys were spewing out. It would be interesting to see an average, everyday American on your show to see
what they think. Say a Joe the Plumber(or Robert the Salesman) but maybe that would be to threatening. There are plenty of us who believe that America should not be turned into a socialist society and it should stand on the foundation on which it was built.
Robert
Bill? The ending of the movie? REALLY?? They say "be religious or die" you say "don't be religious or die." *sigh. But, otherwise, thought it was well put together and I really liked it! Keep up the good work.
S.
My posts are not getting posted to Bill's blog anymore; maybe I upset someone.
=)))
But it seems that you can still receive my posts through email / RSS subscription to the blog, because I get yours.
I let the taunters get to me and I was getting off point anyway.
Saw Obama on The Daily Show today, he has great stage presence. I think John McCain is getting tired - we need a young president to keep up with the problems.
Having Colon Powell on his side is real power. That man has his priorities in order, and he's handled a few presidents without getting sucked into their crapulence. If he was running for any office, I'd vote for him.
Jr had his 15 minutes, now he can go to the Hell he believes in. It is my hope that he will live long enough to realize his mistakes, and feel what I feel - the fear of tyranny. Plus his shame for what he did.
There is no 2 ways with Ayn; she is quite specific. The Republicans used to claim her as their muse, before they took the church into their party. The libertarians - Ron Paul - have the right to claim her still, but she is considered controversial because she is a rock: no political weaving is possible. Noone touches her ideas; she doesn't bend at all.
She didn't sugar coat anything.
Today everyone wants it easy; tv culture. Sheep. It is not my job to save them from themselves and I have not accepted this duty. In my career I have had this thrust upon me several times, in various scopes. I love to help people and I have, but when I got more than 20 at a time HR started setting unreasonable conditions. I chose to do it, I didn't have to, so when they forced their bullshit on me, I quit.
I showed people how great they are. I was just a mirror, but often I was the first one who didn't beat them down. they trusted me, so I fed them; and they stuck around.
I am changing the world, usually one person at a time, but sometimes I get a show. If you could get the attention of 200 million people, what would you say to them?
I even contribute through several churches. They may sell dogshit as hope, but they have a social network through which I can help the abused. I certainly don't believe the pastors, they are selfish conmen, but I get to share through them.
Of course they take all the credit. In this respect, even the Pope owes me.
Once in a while I get thrown out of a church for educating people too much. When they start to think they ask questions; very intimidating to the status quo.
I know calculus. By that I mean I completed all semesters of the college engineering school core; 2 years of class + 6 just playing with it. When I was in school they said about 6% of the world knows calculus. Compared to the 85% who believe in a superstitious deity.
There is a movie, "The Devil's Advocate". In it Al Pacino, as Satan incarnate, rails on God. "God is an absentee landlord!", he says. Its a great movie, you should check it.
Chose your work, do your best. Try to understand where everyone around you is coming from. Don't buy into other people's hype. Its easiest to see if you have a clear conscience.
Hey George,
are you sure your comments aren't being posted ? (I thought mine weren't either until I saw we were already on the second page :))
My interview went very well today, they're inviting me to a second round, so it's cool. I'm willing to take it anyhow, until I find something that suits me better.
As for church, I'm catholic actually but I go like once a year, and usually when I go back to Leb. I guess I'm not really a believer, not in the institutions anyway. The hypocrisy of it all kills me.
I love Ron Paul btw, first time I saw him was on the Daily Show.
It's sad to see how only the really ethical people don't get to the top. There's also Ralph Nader who seems to be interesting as well (I think he's from lebanese descent, judging from his name) :):)
What area from the US are you from btw ?
We've discussed many things about your area! So what are your thoughts about the ME ? I'm interested in that
S.
Bin Ladin captured
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8d30284e7c/october-election-surprise-from-williamgoodrich
“Asking only workman’s wages, I come lookin’ for a job, but I get no offers
Just a comeon from the whores on 7th avenue…”
Dear Bill,
I know I shouldn’t post this here but I cant get an e-mail address for you, and the fact is at least this way you’ll see it. It’s a one time thing, to make a point.
And it’s not like I’m posting illegible crap, this is good stuff.
You have writers, right? Well, like the heading said I’m looking for a job.
This piece is a scientific analysis of prejudice and how the likely future US president Barrack Obama is marking another time of revolutionary change in regards to it. I know that this is probability already covered by others but I guarantee you it won’t be covered as thoroughly and distinctly as it’s covered by me. This is a very good piece of work. Please just read it, it’s all I ask, I’m sure my talent shines through my work.
Compassion, Empathy and Love.
Two thousand years ago the world was not a very nice place. The most powerful political entity at the time, the Roman Empire controlled the population with fear and brutality. The Romans were especially good at ruling by fear and brutality as well as using their military might in conjunction with brutal terror tactics to keep any of their subjugated lands under their sandal heels. The word decimate comes from the Latin where it means kill every 10th person. Now how many languages have come up with a word meaning kill ten percent of the population? And it’s not like the Romans were a bunch of ignorant savages. They had all the trappings of a noble educated civilized society. Fantastic engineering structures, a wide body of advanced mathematical and medical knowledge that led to unparallel advances in the arts and certain sciences. How did such civilized, rational, educated individuals condone the atrocities they were surrounded with every day? A big part of reason educated roman society condoned and even welcomed these government policies was racial hatred. If you were not Roman you were a barbarian and therefore less then human, not deserving of compassion, empathy, and love.
Prejudice has one principally simple yet very base principle behind it, basically; it’s ok to hate people because they’re different from you. The consequences of this mindset leads to some of the most deplorable of human endeavors ranging in intensity from to verbal attacks on of ethnic groups, to unequal rights for individuals under the law, the foisting of second class citizenship on them, forcible segregation of the population and bad as the abominations of slavery and genocide. All of these things come about due to prejudice; due to the idea of it’s us vs. them.
Where does prejudice come from? Is it an inherent human trait, genetically encoded? Well anthropologists have found a familiar pattern throughout all societies. Hunter gatherer society is extremely egalitarian, as a general rule all members of the group are expected to help their fellow man. But that only normally includes just the people in your tribe; usually it’s a group of 100 people or so. People of a different tribe, well, it’s ok to hate them. Rival tribes will raid each other, killing, raping and looting, not ascribing to members of the other group the status of being a viable person, they become less then human. Sadly it’s in our heritage, deeply ingrained behavior that had been with us since the Pleistocene era.
That leads to the question can we change, can we eventually live a world without prejudice? Regardless of what the real answer is, I believe the more important question is shouldn’t we at least try to live in a world without prejudice regardless? You see we have already changed from how we used to be.
Now this change happens slowly but except for when it’s happening quickly and when it’s happening quickly it’s happening very quickly. What is the catalyst? Who are these agents of change?
Two thousand years ago things were bad. Ya see the Romans weren’t just into calling the barbarians names, like well “barbarians”, but also were prejudiced in a scarier, slavery and genocide kinda way.
And then something happened, suddenly there was a new dude on the scene, a member of a brutally suppressed minority within the vast Roman Empire, spreading an idea that would change everything.
You see this guy said things that were dangerous to the Romans, and not in the typical rebel rousing, urging the people to take up arms and fight, treasonous, kinda dangerous. His idea was dangerous because it was transformational.
It was: You should love everybody no matter who they were. And this simple idea caught on despite the Romans stapling it’s proponents to planks of wood. So many people adopted this new idea. And though their roads and bridges would last thousands of years the back of the Roman government couldn’t take the weight of the new idea and broke.
Yes after Rome fell things slowly but gradually changed, centuries past, nations rose and fell until a group of “great men of history” came together and looked at the model of government of the old Roman republic and said:
“Hey, that wasn’t that bad an idea, having regular folks decide who should be in charge rather then just giving the job to the son or daughter of the old boss.”
These guys adopted and expanded the idea that people should be nice to each other, into the great ideals of the enlightenment and the French people’s revolution against the king. That all people were equal, that everyone deserved freedom and that we have an obligation to look out for other people.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité.
And in a land that was called the new world these new works were implemented. And hope for a new and better world was symbolized by this land.
The thing was it was a land that it knew that it was flawed, that it had to strive for a more perfect union.
A phrase that mean that they knew that it was imperfect.
The founding fathers hoped that it would get better. Let’s face it, when you’re a slave working a plantation in the new land. You knew that it had get a little better, a little better all the time. Because to paraphrase John Lennon -it couldn’t get no worse.
These great men of history don’t show up often and when they do it is usually at a time of strife, of upheaval and struggle. Abraham Lincoln was forged in the midst of the civil war. The civil war, like all war, generated a lot of hate. It started innocent enough, the confederate states figure that the northern states should stop telling it what to do. Than the next thing you know there are 42000 dead on a battlefield and Rebs wanna kill Yanks and Yanks wanna kill Rebs. The war had never really been about freeing the slaves, just preventing the breakup of the union, but Abe being one of those “Great Men of History” said heck if I’m going to send hundreds of thousands of men to their death, at least they should fight for something worthwhile, and presto; emancipation proclamation.
In one fell swoop Abe had righted the greatest of sins of the founding fathers. Slavery.
Why are people prejudiced? Do we all have some degree of Prejudice? Prejudice is based on stereotypes. Each ethnic, political, religious group has their own stereotype. And stereotypes develop about each group for a reason, and that is that these stereo types often have merit in describing a large percentage portion of the population. The problem with stereotypes is that you can’t describe all of the population because they do not match the stereotype.
With black population of the United States, I think one of the most pervasive stereo types that exist that automatically categorizes them. Ebonics or black slang is a rhythmic rhyme heavy and extremely emotive style of speaking but is not the kings English. Black folks don’t talk. Like how white people speak. And not just any white people, no, if you had an Okie Twang or a Southern Drawl it wasn’t the same thing as speaking proper Kings English. You see that’s how you talked if you were educated and well breed. It meant you were from certain privileged class.
Well at least it did 100 years ago, but with radio and television coming in to people’s homes it meant that they were hearing how people from the moneyed industrial areas of the northeast coast of the United States spoke. And in a way created a standard. An English dialect that is pretty uniform at least amongst the younger generation of the country.
Still 100 years of segregation tends to keep people apart. And so white folks never got to see Black folks in their lives and, of course, black folks never got on TV.
And so what changed?
Well a lot of has to do with, electric guitars, black rhythm and blues, and black slang. White kids really dug it. Their parents hated it, which made the kids even more crazy for it. Rock and roll influenced that generation in a profound way. You see it’s easy to hate a group in you never see or talk or get to know any of them. Rock and roll was the soundtrack of rebellion, liberation and love that embodied the split the new generations attitudes from the old. Things were changing and it showed in the songs.
Father, father
We don't need to escalate
You see, war is not the answer
For only love can conquer hate
You know we've got to find a way
To bring some lovin' here today
You see back in 1968 the United States was having a crisis of identity. And prejudices and hatred were going strong. Heck you had the young vs. the old, the white vs. the blacks, the moral majority vs. the liberal hippies. And they disagreed on the big issues of the day, the war in Vietnam, civil rights, women’s rights you name it. There was this guy running for president and had gathered a large coalition of people around him, had enormous support among the young. They all wanted the same thing, they were basically fed up and wanted everybody to stop fighting, they wanted the government to try and resolve issues peacefully. When Martin Luther King one of the great men of history was shot the candidate appealed to the people saying:
We can move in that direction as a country, in greater polarization -- black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand, and to comprehend, and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion, and love.
For those of you who are black and are tempted to fill with -- be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man.
But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times.
What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
Lots of people heard him that night and others but he was silenced before he could evoke the change that so many wished for.
But one of the people who did hear, took up the flag and carried it, and this person who seems destined to become another of the “Great Men of History” also decided to run for president, at a point in time where the nation is divided, there is a growing tension between different groups. The religious and the secular. The traditional and alternative lifestyles, and on, and on. Like Robert Kennedy before him Barrack Osama has gathered a large group of people into a movement that seeks to end prejudice.
But wherever there are different people together there is always be a good probability that we will revert back to the ways we thought about the tribes surrounding us. The Germans and the Jews the French and the English. The protestants and the Catholics, the Jews and, well a lot of people hate the Jews. Because they had no homeland they spread out and so were a strange and different minority in each different country. It’s the proximity that does it. Two cultures types together will tend to tribalism themselves, reverting back to acting like the warring tribes in the Pleistocene.
You see despite all he has accomplished all Obama would have to do to completely ruin his chances to be the first black president is open one of his speeches with, “Yo Whassup my Niggaz.”
It would be a gaff of huge proportions. And immediately mean that this man of 47 years wasn’t responsible enough to be president. I.e. he was too black to be president because we all know black people aren’t very responsible. (The stereotype becomes the true image of populace.)
“He ain’t different after all. He’s just like the rest of ‘em.”
He may be the first black president because I doubt there could be a first “black” president.
But the big thing for a lot of voters would be that Barrack wasn’t speaking kings English. anymore, he isn’t speaking white. While there is much less overt racism Obama would suddenly fit into the category of being “black”. He would fit the stereotype.
It shows that despite how far we’ve come, how much more we have left to overcome… some day.
He could inspire real change yet I hope that he’s around long enough to deliver it. As it’s been shown time and time again through history; it’s a dangerous job to wear the crown.
You see things change, but they tend to change in generations. At this moment it the promise of what Barrack has to deliver. And it the effect that the life of Barrack Obama as a “Great Man of History” has on the life of lets say, one black-Jewish Lesbian girl who grows up to destined to follow in his footsteps
End.
So pretty good huh? Sorry don’t mean to sound arrogant, but I’m sure you know what I mean.
I’ve got plenty more most of them a lot funnier, but it’s hard to be comic when you’re being serious. But frankly I expect you to hire me for my talent. And to prove to you that have real talent I want to prove it to you, give me an assignment. Whatever you’d get your other writers to do, I guarantee you that I’ll get back to you within 24 hours with the task completed. I’m good at this and I want to prove it to you.
I don’t expect any pay; I just expect a shot at the title.
Like Mohammed Ali said when he challenged Sonny Liston.
Reporter: “The champ says he’ll give you 150 dollars an hour to spar with him. What do you say to that? You make some money and get in shape besides.”
Mohammed Ali: “Well I got a better offer then that, I’ll fight the champ for nothing.”
Thanks
Marcus
You can call me at 613-544-9249. I live in Ontario. (But I’m from NFLD).
Bill,
Can I have a job, too? I did a stint on "Greys Anatomy" last night!
Remember, I was the one with the spleen that had been punctured by the knife thru the diaphragm, but, they had to put me down at the end of the show.
I didn't even half to talk for the part, just lay on an operating table and be cute! (wink, wink)
Ok, going back into hiding now.
Bill, I didn't happen to catch you on Hardball, however you are my "celebrity crush" for your brain. Yes, I'm in love with your thought processes (not too sexy; sorry). Once again, thanks for speaking aloud what most of us just whisper under our breath.
Hey S.
Did you get your cat yet? For name suggestions I need to know your kitty's gender and fur color/special markings. I was thinking of getting a male Siamese cat and naming him Sinatra (blue eyes).
Wiber, I thought it was on ER you acted out that storyline. Only, at the end of the show the surgeons successfully removed the bullet from your diaphragm and saved your life! :)
Hey Tanya,
good name, Sinatra :)
but be careful with siamese cats, I have one back in beirut, and she's a real bitch. If you like cats that are playeful and cuddly, you won't like siamese cats. They're very private, don't play much, pretty arrogant, and they're a one-person-cat. Mine used to adore me when I was still back in Beirut but after I left, whenever I came back for vacation, she was a real bitch (she actually doesn't let me sleep in my own bed!) so now she's hardly my cat.
As for the one I'm gonna get, I'm not sure yet (a friend of mine wants to give me one kitten so dunno yet), but I really love the ones with the grey stripes and blue eyes, you know, the regular street-ones. I like "leo" for a male, I'm not sure what name if it's a female, so maybe you can help there :)
S.
PS If Bill Maher actually does read the comments here, he must be going completely nuts with all the irrelevant discussions lol
It's actually a friend of a friend..
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=186410&id=1035016251#/photo.php?pid=186411&id=1035016251
Don't you just wanna squeeze them ? lol
S.
Bill,
In this age where everyone wants to be a celebrity--they also want to be a pundit-fundit.
Would you please do a New Rule segment: Don't try this at home!
The fact that we have in this country an incredibly large number of dumbed down people leads many of them to consistently attempt jokes and believe they are clever...they are like an army of intellectual misfits and have no sense of their own limits. And they are constantly in our face in increasing numbers.
C'mon...wouldn't you like to play drill sergeant? Tell 'em to get their heads out of the latrine before they polish the silverware?
Loved Religulous.
Jenn said...
The fact that we have in this country an incredibly large number of dumbed down people leads many of them to consistently attempt jokes and believe they are clever...they are like an army of intellectual misfits and have no sense of their own limits. And they are constantly in our face in increasing numbers.
So your saying Bill's not funny?
tanya said...
Wiber, I thought it was on ER you acted out that storyline. Only, at the end of the show the surgeons successfully removed the bullet from your diaphragm and saved your life! :)
No, that was Bubba. He always gets the good parts. :)
Bill is so intelligent and a great force in the political process but the calling of the Palin family white trash, etc is so beneath him that it undermines his legitamacy as a true intellectual.
Wilber, no... I adore Bill's humor. But he's smart..unlike many who want to appear smart.
Btw, not to presume you are not smart... or to insult you, but another peeve of mine...the question should read:
So you're saying Bill's not funny?
Not 'your'.
Are we ok? ha ha
Jenn said...
Not 'your'.
My bad! You are correct! :)
Hi Bill
U said country first , and i admire you for raising religion. I think religion is a joke as u said it, but why do u joke on people who don't believe about 9/11. There is always a secret that a government keeps from its citizens. For example Pentagon, the pane didn't crush into it, there is no footage, no debris, no nothing, its like religion as you career is based on. there is no substantial evidence , why should we believe what the government tells us as u don't believe in religion. An other example, true leaders in America die so fast than premature born baby does.John F. Kennedy, Abraham Lincolon , Martin Luther King and others. Who knew the truth, In America there is invisible shadow, that follows you every step of the way. The American constitution the best constitution but no one has abided by it since Andrew Jackson. The American dream as we know it, is the biggest fairy tale ever.
Ok, I love having fun on here but "Post" such as the above.....
REALLY PISS ME OFF!
S.~
What a cute kitty! If it's female, the first name I thought of when I saw "her" was "Lily" because it sounds delicate and innocent which is what "she" looks like to me. Doesn't look like a leo (lion) but I won't stand in your way if that's what you decide! :) I think it's a good idea to have the cat around you for a couple days before giving it a name. Get to know the personality and the appropriate name will present itself.
Regarding the Siamese breed, I almost thought you were describing me! Haha...just kidding. I'm allergic to cats (have to take Allegra when I'm around them) so if it wants to keep it's distance, it would be okay. They're basically living statues anyway.
I think Bill M. (my baby) is too busy to continue reading these posts. I barely have time and I'm not that busy! haha...
Wilber, I agree with you on the post by "foreign relations and politics" I mean, I'm not pissed off, but it contained nothing but self-indulgent incoherent ramblings. Why is he/she comparing religion to government? God created people and people created religion. One of my favorite sayings is "you don't know what you don't know" FR&P, do NOT speak for me when you say, "The American dream as we know it, is the biggest fairy tale ever." Go crawl back under the cynical rock you came out from, "we" Americans dream big, small, and everything in between. Dreaming (having goals and aspirations) is part of Living. Maybe you should try it sometime. Oh, remove the stick from your ass while you're at it...
As for your statement that the 9/11 Pentagon plane crash never happened cause "there was no evidence" really speaks volumes about your ignorance and callous attitude. How about those families who lost their loved one(s) that day in that particular plane crash? Are their tears, stories, pain not enough evidence for you? Shame on you.
Sorry, Wilber. That dang Bubba always gets the best parts. ER is a good gig! :)
tanya said..
Sorry, Wilber. That dang Bubba always gets the best parts. ER is a good gig! :)
Yah, Bubba prefers that I take parts that have a demise for me in the end. Don't know why he hates little ole Wilber? Makes me sad! But, if Mark Green can come back, watch out Bubba, Wilber will be back! :)
i hope that everyone who loves bill and bill himself reads the book The End of Faith by Sam Harris. It is a far more important book than "The God Delusion" by Dawkins or "God is not Great" by Hitchins. It is a must read for any thinking person who is rational enough to see the increasing danger of religious extremism and those more moderate religionists who provide a smokescreen behind which they can hide and operate with relative immunity. Mr. Harris rightly asserts that the unwritten rule about not questioning believers will lead to our eventual doom.
I think everyone should just respect each other for whatever their beliefs are.
If this doesn't stop, we are all doomed. We can't go on like it has been. Accept what happens and go forward from there.
Ok, Wilber being sentimental. :(
Everyone has very personal beliefs and values developed through their upbringing, experiences, choices, etc. And everyone is entitled to their own opinions. This would be a pretty boring world if we all agreed an everything.
So, I say let bygones be bygones.
as defined from dictionary.com
3. let bygones be bygones, to decide to forget past disagreements; become reconciled: Let's let bygones be bygones and be friends again.
I don't think anyone should have to give in or give up his/her convictions. Just give others the best of you.
Tanya,
I agree!
I only know this is hurting us more than helping.
personal belief systems are fine but "magical" beliefs are inherently dangerous. I don't need to list the atrocities ndone in the name of these beliefs because it is already well documented. The thing is that we mustn't let this type of thinking become the norm. As technology snowballs the impact of one single person or a small group of people can be catastropic for the entire population of a country, continent or the entire planet. Extreme beliefs must be kept in check by a majority that confronts these people and groups with science and logic and discourages them from spreading potentially dangerous. ideas. Remember, there are too many people out there who are not interested in friendship or understanding
I'm a big girl now, all grown up. I know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys.
Go ahead and fight the good fight, for I will walk away from the bullies on the playground.
Oh yeah, extreme beliefs = war.
you can walk away tanya but unfortunately the playground keeps getting smaller
Splendour in the Grass
What though the radiance
which was once so bright
Be now for ever taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendour in the grass,
of glory in the flower,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind;
In the primal sympathy
Which having been must ever be;
In the soothing thoughts that spring
Out of human suffering;
In the faith that looks through death,
In years that bring the philosophic mind.
-- William Wordsworth
Fortunately, there is more beyond the playground, my friend. Narrow thinking is not a valid license to evoke manic behaviors or actions. Think outside of the confines of your mind and you'll understand that.
I choose not to get sucked into a battle of wits so I am walking away from you now...PEACE.
What a sad, angry little existence you must live Bill... Your constant scowl betrays your desperate attempts to laugh your way out of it... Whether you like this fact or not the case for a creator far outweighs the ridiculous theories clutched onto by those who desperately seek to evade any stable moral standards. The advent of the self-replicating single-cell organism has no viable explanation. Multiple inter-dependent organelles working in concert for the good of the whole cell within the protective cell wall... but how? They can't exist independently... The lame theories used to explain this phenomenon thus far by the scientific community are such a stretch of logic and chance that I would vehemently argue the sanity of anyone who actually subscribed to them. That simple point is merely scratching the surface of the myriad other subjects addressing such issues as the advent of advanced lifeforms, advent of DNA fusion in reproduction, problems with the deeply flawed evolutionary theory, purpose of cognitive processes and the miracle of communicative interplay. These are not merely coincidental phenomenon... only a truly insane person could have that kind of baseless blind faith...
righttolife ur blinded by a concept to which their is not one iota of evidence. You fail to explain anything and then you conclude their is a god who created everything because of your failure to understand scientific evidence. U believe in creation for which thrre is not a single shread of evidence versus evolution to which their are enough volumes of evidence to fill your church. And another thing, after reading your diatribe it is clear u are far more angry than Bill Maher is, despite the fact he has more reasons to be angry (surrounded by a country full of imbeciles). Your entire belief system is flawed as are you
In 2000 years some still have not learned that their demands for evidence of the self-evident will be ignored... No anger here... just pity for the plebes that would so fully and willingly attach their faith to poorly constructed unprovable theories...
unbelief in the intelligent design of God is simply a mis-application of one's faith to another focal point... but one object is no more "proven" than the other... you merely delude yourself into believing that it is... (similar to political partisanship) but truthfully I could fabricate and construct a real nice open-ended story especially if I can reserve the right to conveniently revise it with every new piece of contradictory evidence... this is what you hang your hat on ! Of course, along with the perk of moral relativism... Sadly, I don't think that we have yet witnessed the true depths of depravity to which the human heart can delve... At the end of the day it is simply a matter of where one places one's trust... In the limited and heavily dependent perceptive abilities of men... or in something higher... and more noble...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
BTW - mediocre... The "church-filling" evidence of which you speak is no more "actual evidence" as Obama's "Tax cuts" are actual tax cuts. If we raise taxes on the rich and on businesses... that cost will most assuredly be passed right back down to the consumer in the form of inflation... The rich have accountants and loophole creating congressmen in their back pockets to protect them from Mr. Obama...
Tanya :)
How come you're allergic to cats and you want to get one anyways :)? if it's their hairs, you get the hairless one hahaha ! I don't recall how it's called :):)
As for "Leo", you know it's kinda of a cute name, like a baby lion, no ?
I dunno, I guess I just like the name, but I think you're right, I'm gonna wait a couple of days before naming it (him or her)
Will keep you posted when I actually get it !!!
Where's George btw ? I hope his comments aren't being deleted..
S.
Righttolife,u just stick to your medieval beliefs. Yesterday in Somalia a woman who was raped was convicted of adulery and stoned to death. Religion wins again! A belief in any religion justifies a belief in ANY religion, they all are based on the same foundation of blind faith. The only difference between a Christian fundamentalist and a Muslim terrorist is that nobody has asked the Christian to strap on a bomb, although i have no doubt there would be plenty of volunteers
R2L, you are obviously one of those
'hard to stomach'[at least you are
to me]far-right evangelicals, who just love to hear themselves talk!
Jesus-fucking-Christ, look how many posts you submitted just to
'try' to get your 'point' across!
Now try giving a bibliography of
the books,[besides your bible],that
you've actually READ,that can disprove all the evidence of already proven science! I don't think you can,because religious nuts like you would NEVER consider
the possibility that your beliefs
are archaic because they sprung from a time in history when the
church was a ruling body, who kept
control over the masses that the government couldn't control! You've
been 'pranked' and you're too foolish to even realize it! 1st step: take those 'blinders' off;
they make you look just like the ASS that you are!
beautifully said cat. these people constantly deride science but they have no problem blogging on their computer, watching a television, using a microwave, driving a car, ect. Basically science is their whore. They believe the earth is only 10,000 years old and will tell u carbon dating is inaccurate, not even realizing scientists use uranium dating (4.5 billion year half life). Mistaking the earth for 10,000 years old is equivalent of mistaking a 40 year old person for someone 2 hours old. if science was this inaccurate then how do we send space ships to Mars and land within 10 yards of the designed spot, and how do i talk to u from Australia at the touch of a button. Their idiocy knows no bounds
Righttolife, you've made my day, and I really truly deeply thank you for it.
I grew up in a country where there is rouglhy 50-50 christians and muslims, each group arguying (or at least privately thinking) their religion's better. During my teenage and twenties years, Christians became less numerous, and the country being a middle eastern country with huge political problems, their voices got lower and lower while the muslim voices got higher and higher, and of course, spoke of wars, bad social 'habits' (alcohol, sex, homosexuals, etc.), and "resisting to the enemy"
[ring a bell, there?] , while when the christians ruled, we welcomed the West and its culture, and let people develop and enhance the way they chose to.
In order to find a balance in my head, I made up my mind about the difference between the two: christianity allowed for more cultural freedom, while Islam was more archaic and more violent. So I was quite happy to be born in a christian family, and was happily raised to drink wine on good occasions, and happy not to contradict my parents' beliefs, by being friends with anyone (gays, people from other religions, etc.) who was different. BECAUSE I was very naive and thought that christians EVERYWHERE comprehended the fact that Christ took in a prostitute, drank wine, and never built armies to impose his views (well the Vatican took care of that afterwards, but that wasn't Christ's fault), so basically the whole difference to me was resumed in two words : tolerance and forgiveness if needed.
SO THANK YOU, because you've just shown me that ANY RELIGION, including mine, can become archaic and violent and repressive, if it's allowed to dominate. Because it is dominated by men, WHICH ARE BIPEDES, and whose interests are to CONTROL others.
It is exactly the same talk as the muslims whose, for now, voices are louder in my country. You believe, word for word, the exact same things THEY believe : it's a shame and against God's will to be a gay or a lesbian, weapons should be put in your hands to protect yourselves (or your honour), your own religion is the best and is the true version the world should follow and anything against it is TERRORISM, stem cell research sucks, etc. You guys are actually best friends and you share the same belief : imposing it on others. The only difference is that you can still pride on your democracy which, to this day, doesn't really exist in many ME countries. But you didn't win your democracy over night. It was your forefathers who gave it to you, and they believed in the seperation of Church and State when they passed it on to you, for a damn good reason. And you're ruining it. People like you show me it is indeed a battle between the moderates and the extremists.
Now, before insults eventually rain on my head for being true and honest, let me ask:
1.Are you happy with the negative correlation that is observed historically between religion and social freedoms ? (I guess you are)
2. if God has created everything that is so smart about us, isn't he the one who also created our ability to work with stem cell research and be able to save millions of lives ? How can you even sleep at night knowing you're one of the people that support refusing to millions treatment and good health, on the sole ASSUMPTION that GOD is against it ?
S.
Btw, have you heard of the holy shroud of Turin (Italy). The Vatican has agreed to use carbon dating on it to prove that it was Christ's. It was only when the results didn't come out correctly that they rejection the C14 method !!!
And it's not to criticize or reject Christianity or the existence of Christ (and btw, any person who assumes they're moderate should not be so certain when they say God doesn't exist, otherwise, they're just reversed religious extremists, with extremists views about something they can't ever verify).
But it's to point out the hypocrisy of institutions !
You are willing to accept science as long as it fits your assertions !!!
Exactly like Islam, btw
Science is a whore, indeed
S.
epitome of mediocrity, thank you for backing me up with this poor misguided sheep! And you also S.; but
honestly, while I totally followed & understood, & agreed with what you said,I seriously wonder & doubt if 'right2life' could! C'est la vive!
I'm a stupid optimist that believes anyone can eventually understand. The secret is to speak in people's own words and own references. I don't think I'll ever master that though.
I mean, there is a human inside there somewhere. You just need to find the thing that triggers them because they're sound asleep with the BS they get hypnotized with. And I've learned that there are some things you can't touch. When I discuss things with muslim friends, I've learned not to criticize directly the quran, but rather the politics, and actually, it seems better to follow the same pattern with christians. It's kinda sad cause it used to be the only religion I was confortable criticizing (respectfully and in an constructive way, like can someone explain what the hell is the concept of the Church with closed doors and gold plated ceilings when people are dying of hunger and cold outside...) since it's mine, but people are becoming more and more extreme. It's like you're insulting their mothers or something !
So whenever you want to make a point, focus on the institutions and the men that control them.
The good thing about my part of the world (europe and even in Leb) is that actually, people will still go to church, but are open enough to realize that you can't refutate evolution, so the debate is much lighter.
Good luck with your part of the world :):) It will eventually work out
S.
PS
The politics behind the quran, that is
S.
Notice the hate inherent in the attacks against me... How easily you fall into your self-constructed trap" I never refuted scientific method or discovery... only the insistance on clinging to poorly constructed theories that must continually be "modified" to be propped up. A sincere understanding of the inherent darkness of the human heart exemplified so well by hateful attacks such as those on this thread merely highlight the need for moral guidance. To make the assinine assumption that God is at fault for the twisted opportunism exercised by those who subvert His principles for their own gain and to then throw out the proverbial baby (faith in God) with the bathwater (Religion) is the very
"ir-rationale" that you have used in falsely accused me of disregarding science completely. How utterly hypocritical !
Let's face it... the heart of man can corrupt any religious system (Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism etc.)any political and economic systems (Fascist, Socialist, Capitalist, Representative Democracy, Communist, Monarchy etc.) It makes no difference the "constant" is that ALL of these can be and are being twisted and manipulated by people for their own selfish gain. Your "blinders" have caused YOU to misplace the blame for the evils that exist in the world. It is truly solely unconditional selfless love (as a mother should have for her child) that is the only mitigating factor in softening the hardened hearts of men. Not a strict "letter of the law" mentality but a real compassion and thirsting for good.
BTW - the several deleted posts that you derided me for were actually a result of improper time-stamps on posts made during the daylight savings shift... that I removed and re-posted for correct positioning... another example of the imperfect nature of things... Only a wise creator could/would create a situation where people could truly have a choice to believe or not because His existence is "unproven".
If you look at it another way... Wouldn't it be harder? To exist and hide it so well that it cannot be "scientifically" proven nor disproven? To allow true "freedom"
this would be necessary. There is always a cost and benefit or to put it in terms that YOU understand "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Little else of science holds true "absolutely" ...too many variables... I would be a fool to put my faith solely in man's ability to decipher things... what of the "order" in chaos? The forces that hold all things in place? The invisible hand of God? why are there physical laws?... and what makes them laws? who is the author of those laws? I certainly do not look to the likes of YOU for answers to such weighty matters... You recognize that there is a problem (the heart of man) misdiagnose it as (religion) and then you treat the symptom and not the disease... When the very answers you seek are the ones you destroy you are then in a desperate and hopeless situation...
And ultimately aside from all of your insults and attacks you really have no provable answers for the advent of life... merely conjecture and theory... thus you cling to your "faith" in it...
The only "proof" that x-rays exist is by observing their effects on their surroundings. Sound familiar?
In other words... just because we could not detect x-rays except for the past 100+ years does not mean that they did not exist and impact their surroundings throughout time...
Right2Life says, "If we raise taxes on the rich and on businesses... that cost will most assuredly be passed right back down to the consumer in the form of inflation..."
As a consumer it is one's responsibility to do business where it makes sense. Some consumers seem to forget, we hold the cards, we have the power, we say who gets our money and who DOESN'T. We have choices to make.
Socialism 101: it's the little guys that make and keep the big guys rich. Example, celebrities and professional sports teams would be nothing without the little guys paying to watch their movies, buy the tickets, t-shirts, books, etc.
My regular grocery store got to be too expensive for me in the last few months. The prices kept creeping up. We have another alternative (Aldi)and since I've been taking my business there, I save at least $100 per shopping trip. I shop every 10 days. So, I save at least $300 per month. That's $3,600 per year. That's 3 month's of mortgage payments for me. If more consumers took responsibility for how they spend their money, these other price gouging companies would have to make changes to their business model to keep/bring back their customers. It's either that or go out of business.
RE: Shroud
The shroud of Turin and the Catholic Church's position on carbon dating is of no consequence to me... I do not build my faith around such objects... It's authenticity is irrelevant.
Tanya - while you are correct in principle even stores like Aldis will pass on the effects of increased taxes and mandatory healthplans to their customers... it's inevitable...
we can and should be frugal but these effects will still be felt... the difference with stores like Aldis is simply that they have found ways to reduce their overhead and therefore their profit margins are also much more fragile...
R2L-
We, the consumers, induce market competitiveness. Pure, direct, indirect, and budget competition between companies and its products/services are necessary and favorable to its customers.
Aldi's profit margins increase because they understand these philosophies and base their business methods on the attitude that "we win if our customers win."
If you want to take the "glass is half empty" approach in life, it is my opinion that you will miss out on opportunities that would be more beneficial to you and your family. The sky is not falling.
Hi S.!
Leo is a cute name for a (little lion) so don't mind me. (wink) Everyone in my family has cats except for me so I feel a little left out. I own a condo and my association doesn't allow dogs unfortunately so I've been tossing around the idea of getting a kitty cat. They do cost money (food, litter, toys, vet, allergy meds for me, etc) so I'm going to wait for a little while longer before making that kind of commitment. Let us know what name you finally decide on. How 'bout Jag (short for jaguar)? :)
P.S. I think someone out there has it in for George.
Re: Fall and Redemption
Its an old theme, the fall and redemption. We think our country has gone mad, done terrible things here at home and throughout the world, but at last the people responsible for that will be leaving, finally, moving on, like the locusts. And we all momentarily hope that Obama will bring redemption, a revival of the best ideas of our democracy. We'll all see.
It's really like the Nazis fleeing Paris with the art in their trucks -- the people who have run us into the ground have been frantically packing their planes with money, ready to flee to their European villas. Probably tomorrow, actually. Everyone has feared the October surprise -- the start of a new war, use of nukes, attack on Iran -- one more crazed and murderous act from the Bush regime. But note that other than their few stupid bombings and murder of civilians in Syria and Pakistan, the real focus of these people has been on grabbing all the money.
That whole wall street bailout was just them grabbing more for themselves. And the Democrats pushed it through presumably because they get their cut, and/or they've been just as complicit in this whole con as their Republican co-conspirators.
But I've been thinking about Bill Maher, who has been at the top of his game this season. One after the next show has just the best. And it occurred to me: Bill Maher's career was almost destroyed by the insane barbarians who took control of our country in 2000. And his career has not just come back, but reached new heights, because of the ultimate unveiling of the true corruption, deceit, and insanity of the Bush Regime. How ironic and really quite wonderful.
So congratulations Bill Maher, job well done. I won't say you single-handedly brought these people down -- but you should tell people that you did, say you planned it from the start, because it makes a great story.
Congratulations To All Democrats Who Remained Sane
During the Bush Years:
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
(heard on the Mike Malloy show)
NABNYC
R2L, YOU are truly BORING! Get lost,and go repeat yourself to someone who gives a flying fuck what you're saying...
Yeah, where is George C.? He hasn't posted in a few days...
Foxians = Our-Quida
-When Good Christians Follow False Gods-
Glutting daily upon Fox Network's Info-mation, a number of 'Some Good Christians' across our nation gleefully tread the Conservatives' path to the Devil's Offerings. The public's glad gorge upon the glossy propaganda arm of the GOP tragically warps 'Some Good Christians' to become hateful, spiteful, and oh-so eager to cheat to gain. Darkly, a few of those even now dream of the bragging rights a murder might bring. (As a reminder to the reader: hate, spite, cheating, and murder break several of the Ten Commandments, God's Word to ALL Good Christians.)
I hope True Christians will be vigilant against the shiny Golden Idol of Sarah Palin, who placidly spews her sermon of bold lies to her pitiably misled idolaters, stirring their crowds to murderous moods, she herself hastily discarding even any nano-second twinges of True Christian conscience, instead to find succor in the vision of vast power which the Horned One has spread before her.
All she must needs do is the unconscionable, and her zeal in executing that commends her to Republican power brokers all the more. 'Going Rogue' results from Ms. Palin's political survival instinct, to cleave her gilded self from her dead host.
Fox's holy pundits gossip in the morning then congratulate their obeisant 'Some Good Christians' for thinking their way by sleep time. A better training camp there never was.
Foxians – Good Christians who follow False Gods - fight the bright future before the United States of America. Hopefully, Foxians won't endanger the immanent election, but they will perpetuate the strong ur-spring of insidious evil within our political scene, disguised as holier-than-thou Christian self-righteousness.
"Kill him!" chanted Some Good Christian Followers of the Golden Palin. Who knew Bin Laden would win by calling forth our own religious fanatics? He and the Devil clearly know how to use religion to get their way.
Steering off the subject of sex for a moment, it’s probably worthwhile to debunk the Jesus dependency paradigm. Just as conventional geometry has been superseded by Benoit Mandelbrot’s fractal view of the universe in the observation of nature’s curves,
a state-of-the-art form of spiritual expression is borne of the individual potential to be at one as God, without the necessity of a Jesus agent. And if one can cozy up to the idea of universal oneness, it’s not possible to get rid of any portion of the whole, whether they are Jews, telephone pollsters or murderers. They just keep reincarnating, right back at you. Now we see where being as one is taking us. Deadly violence only repeats the cycles in the cable news channel of eternity.
What makes dying so scary for many is the concept of losing one’s identity. This exercise in letting go is naturally more wrenching for people whose identities are crystallized in fame. Hasn’t Jesus suffered enough? We don’t need to go through the ego orgy loop to learn the opposite theory of identity non-attachment. Plus, I have a feeling that the Holy Trinity and assorted fantasy friends are in a session on the party grid, and we’re going to have to face salvation on our own devices.
Of course keeping an open mind and cultivating the philosophy of being receptive is the fast track to feeling interconnectedness. Just like the submissive feminine emotion of openness evokes great orgasms… but I digress.
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Dick Cheney thanked some people and the state of Wyoming in his campaign speech yesterday, basically saying nothing else; a shrewd way to subdue low information voters.
In contrast, I enjoyed your choice of guests the other night as Cheney’s spokesgirl, Amy Holmes, rattled off her Republican dribble with poise, then stared doe eyed like a chocolate statuette as deep thinker and brilliant poet Cornel West reduced her ideas to dust. She doesn’t quite fit the Republican mold and could easily shift her stance to that of a disillusioned conservative, as so many others have, yet she insists on going down with the ship. Enigmatic Amy, what is the motive? Will you morph into a liberal butterfly after Tuesday?
Cat and Tanya... hehehe (wink)
Well, I do miss George ! I wanted to discuss some more stuff with him lol
Tanya, thinking of that Jag name, if the kitten looks kinda foxy, yeah definitely (kinda jagger looking :P).
I still haven't got it though..
Rightolife, just a reminder to the reasons behind the "hateful messages" you were sent:
"What a sad, angry little existence you must live Bill... Your constant scowl betrays your desperate attempts to laugh your way out of it... Whether you like this fact or not the case for a creator far outweighs the ridiculous theories clutched onto by those who desperately seek to evade any stable moral standards"
You are contradicting yourself in your later messages, by trying to justify your own hateful attitude... So in the spirit of Jagger---> 'This is ground control to Major Tom': COME DOWN !
S.
BILL
Listen, buddy. When someone like Huckabee begins a sentence with "God *has* to"-- ie, God had to allow free will for love to be meaningful... THAT IS YOUR CHANCE TO POUNCE! God has to? Exactly! Then he's not all-powerful. You miss so many great opportunities this way.
Love ya brother.
I may have come on a little strong but let's face it Bill has made and publicized an entire movie attempting to deride and mock the faith of many... I think he had it coming... besides... it's true... my insulting analogies at least drive toward making a cogent point... the hateful responses were much less reason driven...
PEOPLE (ie Tanya :p)
That was Bowie not Jagger ! (Ground control)
The kitten's name is definitely Bowie !! loool
Righttolife, I wanted to reply to you and had the answer typed, but my computer crashed so I'll have to rewrite it. It seems to me that from your later message, you do get the difference between the institutions and religion. We'll discuss this later, if you agree.
Just keep one thing in mind: if you want to be able to express your beliefs, then you have to have in yourself to WANT people with different opinions to express theirs as well. I'll come back to that one later. Gotta get some sleep.
PEACE (pleeeeease !!!!)
S.
PS (again) Where the hell is George ??
How juvenile... "hey there!"... "gotcha!" "you said God had to!" ...nya! nya! "See I told ya" .... give us all a break and don't waste the bytes...
God "chose" to create a free-willed being in his image which necessitates offering more than one possible choice or an alternative...
Huck's point was more about "telling" someone to love you versus them doing it of their own volition... You, on the other hand, probably just get 'em drunk... It's not really rocket science... God didn't "have to" create man at all. In your version of the world life is merely a cosmic accident and therefore really of no great significance in the big picture... Absence of a stable belief system can allow for all manner of attrocities to be committed and "justified" in the mind of the perpetrator just as easily as intentional manipulation of a belief system can.
So touche' to All the Young (juvenille) Dudes - Bowie/Mott The Hoople
My last post was directed to >>> mydogplaysguitar....
"s" >>> your points duly noted
This is for you S. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o&feature=related
Hey Maher...saw you on the Huckabee show. Huckabee was WAY to soft on you. Nice guy, but was not being a critical thinker in his responses. I know you had to work in Dawkinsnesque and Harrisosophy soundbites in such a setting, but man did you lay out some lobs that should have been blistered back over the net to you. I assume you would like more critical interaction. I would go see your movie, but don't want to push box office activity for such, so will wait until it hits the $1 Redbox units and do the discount thing. But will be interested to see at what level of, in my case, religious thinkers, whom you posed your "questions" to that you feel aren't often asked. Frankly, I LOVE the simple ones you asked Huckabee, and those which are far more engaging in depth of thought. Would love to go one by one on those questions with you if possible. I have spent time in debate with associates of Dawkins and of the popular Harris. So far, haven't encountered a question from George Smith or other contemporary followers of "disbelief" that doesn't allow for an equally compelling "weight of evidence" response. You noted neurological disorders are consistent with people of faith - I assume you are willing to recognize that comedians and commentators (or hybrids) most likely possess the same, correct? Because if we have somehow remarkably all generated from one cell, it would only be plausible that one might find consistent neurological disorder, however expressed, among all creatures...depending on how the testing you used has been able to conclude all persons of faith possess neuro disorders as you seem so assured. I have not seen such testing, but feel certain if I used your methodology, I may reasonably conclude that atheists, agnostics, comedians, and commentators possess the same disorder - which then might bring into question the value of your movie or why we should evem critique each other's thinking at all given our faulty starting points - we are all disordered, most likely, if we apply your testing methodology to everyone. We have seen the crazies, and they are us. Could I get a copy of your testing procedures that you have conducted to so confidently conclude all faith folks are disordered? Would love seeing that research. After all, we should just take what people say gullibly, should we, that might seem Beliefidiculous.
Hi all,
Thanks 'S' - I missed the paging, doh!
I had to go out in this car with these people, and...
Take a time out to stop reacting to the many hostile comments; better to pick your battles and go play doctor with Tanya & her friends, while the dumb boys wrassle. :)
I am impressed at how much frustration people posting here are feeling. I think we need more time and better resources to figure out what the fuck our state and federal 'representatives' are really doing to make really good choices; it would be a helluva thing if we could start negotiating on the web to make better collective bargaining demands to them. In other words, we blues and reds figure out our own compromises, then our purple coalition gangpiles the 'how did you get so rich as a public servant?' allegedly representative government and gets represented.
At all levels: fed, state, county, city.
I bet Obama would get behind this, and Ron Paul & Nader, leaving only the unrepresentative coalitions: the 10%.
Thats a short list.
Bill is a great catalyst in the right direction. Be sure that everything posted in Bill's blogs is being analyzed as if it contained the human genome; and put into cold storage for future research.
And not just by Bill & HBO.
Apparently "The Palins" tv show has been cancelled: "King of the Hill".
Because John Stewart said Sorry Pale One looks like Hank's wife.
Hey weasel king,
Its pub sport to tie your cuffs and stick as many ferrets down your pants as possible; you should try it; they have rat teeth.
About your faith: in America the prevailing reason is the scientific method. Have you ever heard of Ben Franklin? Read his autobiography and if you still think the space God loves you, get rid of the lightening rods.
The scientific method requires duplicatable experimental proof, not "God told me to kill my babies" psychosis.
Can you tell the difference? Its what seperates us from animals...
S.
You are a hopeful optimist.
Me too, but I have learned from brutal experience that its slim at best. The looters have had 200+ years to rig the system: even if I have proper contracts, I need the right judge. Contracts are shit, the system is so broken that the vampire lawyers just drag out any case - and file more pulp fiction, until you just give up.
Same model here as there; you are the most valuable poster to this group. Thank you for your clear vision.
We need to change the model == system. We need a better model and we need enough frustrated people so that we can be taken seriously.
Then, we need more models. First the 10% are trying to stop us, so we need to play cat & mouse. Second, because we will discover from other mice some great models as we go. Third, because one size does not fit all and some models work best is specific situations.
We can reclaim ghettos; we can start colleges.
As a British citizen Ben Franklin was the postmaster and created a hospital, a library, a fire department, a university, rediscovered electricity, invented the harmonium and bought a pew in every denominational church in Philadelphia,
Which he made the starting point of the American Revolution when England betrayed him.
He played the British political system well, and even made his son the Governor of New Jersey.
I think that British system was a lot like the state of America now.
Hey Bill
Saw you on Huckabee. You were too soft one him,
He's a manipulative tool.
He said that democracy depends on luck. In every church I have hacked, infiltrated or was victimized by *oh, my*, They would punish me for using that 4 letter word: LUCK.
Unless of course I was referring to Pastor Ken Luck, who took acid at a Van Halen concert, saw God became born again, and is now an evangilist.
They would tell me to say 'blessings'.
I think Huckabee a Pat Robertson wannabe, and that demented leering sociopath is Ellesworth Toohey incarnate.
Read "The Fountainhead".
Hey Bill,
Today I heard both candidates promise jobs 'that could not be outsourced'.
Too bad. I know how to outsource any & every job.
But what Obama said, to provide tax incentives only to businesses that create domestic employment, that can be policed easier than immigration.
S.
I live at the economic heart of the biggest blue state, the one shaped like a banana - heh - with the big red goobernator. Atm the yang is a little over the yin; the mind prevails still.
I like the goobernator except for his fucked up party line RNC 'pave it all' unenvironmental policies.
If you are allergic to cats there is a cat you won't be allergic to, the Siberian. Look here:
http://www.siberiancatworld.com/
I'm no expert on this but it is my understanding that this cat has a long, thick outer coat & a downy undercoat to make it cold tolerant - so the oils and dandruff don't disperse like for other cats. Last I knew they have to be imported; its a De beers thing.
My favorite cat is the female Bengal. Small, intelligent, able to climb across the ceiling, cuddles by day, vicious all night long:
http://www.starkittiebengals.com/bengal-cat-queens-photos.php
Back to polsci. Here is a great video:
G. Edward Griffin: The Capitalist Conspiracy
47 min. video; strap in, its great! It explains the Federal Reserve banking system of the USA, plus how its b0rked. No BS.
Lots of great vids on Google, almost don't need a tv anymore to stayed tuned...
Hi I hope that someone (Bill Maher) reads this eventually.
Please, please stop saying that christians and religious people have neurological disorders. They don't. It's unnecessary namecalling, and if you think that calling them retarded will make them want to change then think about what you feel when christians call liberals "baby killers".
Religious people are normal people, rational people, who have been exposed to a lot of wrong information. If you were living in a land where everyone said "the sun is a giant firefly that flies in the same path every day", and everyone agreed with that, then why would you question it?
So please stop saying they have a disorder. Once you realize that religious people are rational people, you will better understand how religion functions and why people put so much of their lives into it. (psst hint - everyone needs to fulfill the meanings of life, but some go about it the wrong way)
I've spent time with the most zealous, far flung reformationist christians and it's amazing to see how they act completely normally in terms of social behavior, have the same kinds of wants and needs as me, but have these outlandish views of the way the world operates. I mean, sure it's one thing to have theories of how people justify religion, but seeing how they play out is just... well it's awe inspiring and eye opening to say the least.
-Aaron
akking (at) uci.edu
It is so refreshing to hear an American tell it like it is about his country. "We are the leaders of the world" is a mantra that doesn't hold much weight outside the US. In fact, it's become a bit of a joke here (in Canada), as it has in many other worldly countries.
I agree, Bill, that it's time to stop saying you're the greatest nation on earth and start acting like it.
I can proudly say that at least on the religious score (and the literacy score), we Canadians have left our American neighbors way behind. (It may have taken too many mothers regretting the day they let their boys go off on weekend camping trips with the grown up man of God, but so be it.)
I completely agree with your religious views, and I agree that this blind faith is dangerous. But I'm also a live and let live kinda girl, so if it makes a lost soul feel a little less loss, than who am I to say it's bad for them. Where it is frightening is when your leader says that America will succeed because God wants you to succeed. America may have a shot at succeeding when your so-called leader of the world leaves the White House.
He, and many of his ilk, are good for a laugh, however. And I do love a good laugh, which is why I enjoy you so much.
Keep up the good work.
War redistributes the wealth like no other political policy. The dead don't complain about who took their stuff.
hey bill..what's up? Went to see Religulous this weekend. It was VERY good! Only one issue...there was a bar graph shown stating that about 3% of Americans are gay. The most widely accepted number is about 10%...there's even a magazine called, 10%.
Otherwise, perfecto!
Woohoo!
Let's go finish what Abe Lincoln started 148 years ago, but was unable to finish due to that severe lead poisoning infection he got from unsafe sex with a dirty right wing conservative sleazebag.
Its been too long coming...
I can see right now that no matter how this election turns out, the hate and sick comments will never stop.
I'm more terrified of Obama followers than the man himself!
Don't be scared of me, Wilber.
As they say, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Yes Tanya, I hate the game because that is what it has turned into. Ever since Clinton took "Respect" out of the Oval office, that opened the door for "anything goes" in this country.
Facts are ignored, propaganda is accepted. These 2 aren't running for President, it's Romper Room to see who gets to play with the largest toy.
Hello again !!
Righttolife, you said "only a truly insane person could have that kind of baseless blind faith". Can you put me back into context again (sincerely missed the point) ? Weren't you criticizing science related to some earlier discussion about stem cell research ? I took the Turin shroud example because it shows what I feel is your position. You believe in science as long as it doesn't contradict religion.
So let's start from the beginning - what is your position on stem cell research and why ? And do you believe in the litteral version in the Bible of how God created Adam and Eve ?
George is back !!
As Jon Stewart frequently says, I kid you not !! I really did miss the paging. Lol I, too, go through incredibly dumb moments from time to time, like anyone else :P
Btw, I found a different level of english with your posts, everytime I need to focus 10 times more - Can't you be more 'Palin' ? That's an english I get :P
Now, let me try to translate this : "I live at the economic heart of the biggest blue state, the one shaped like a banana - heh - with the big red goobernator. Atm the yang is a little over the yin; the mind prevails still"
Would that be California ? (I just picked the banana shaped one off the map !), plus it makes sense to relate to Schwarzie as the Big red goobernator lol
But what's up with the Yin and the Yang
I actually had to try to understand this sentence during at least 5 minutes !!
Schwarzie is funny. I still don't get how he can support Bush & Co. He's pretty good on renewable energy and I think gay rights, no ?
Tanya, what can I say, there's something indefinitely old and sad about this song, I just love it. it's one of these very few songs that will last forever, no matter what the fashion or what new kinds of music emerge. Can't believe we're in the Britney Spears age......... Evangelicals are right. From that perspective, it is the end of the world hahaha !
S.
Btw, Tanya, I may get a cat tomorrow but not the one I sent you a pic of. I have to visit it tomorrow and see if we become buddies :)
S.
Respect was compromised in the White House long before Clinton. You want to talk about anything goes? Let's talk about the sham of a president we've had for the last 8 years. No, nevermind. I'm sick of that subject. Thankfully, it's time to move on.
People who live in the past, don't move forward, and don't hope to expect more. I have hope and I expect more. That's why I'm voting for Obama today.
Stop living in the past Wilber, move forward.
Respectfully Yours~
tanya
What do you know, this version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhSYbRiYwTY&feature=related) was the one released with the single, I think. The one you posted earlier was the original one.
Anyways, if you believe the description on youtube, this one was apparentely released on Nov. 4th, 1969..
39 years ago, day for day.
S.
OK, just in case Jebus does exist, and Bill or his assistants do read this thing, I'd like to ask a question...
Have you guys ever considered starting a message board that can come close to the forum of free speech the Maher board was years ago?
It took some doing on Ted/Kim's part to get that panzy ass at SafeSearching to allow adult language on Bill's board.
If I understand correctly, they made Bill purchase a separate server, so that our nasty couldn't infect their candy ass boards.
The HBO Maher board is a piece of shit when it comes to free speech.
So Bill, be a 'Sport' and shell out a ton of cash, so that we can have a new sandbox, before they outlaw sand...
If Ted/Kim is still working for you, he/she will know what I mean.
Excellent moderator!
...umm, except for that bottom bitch comment directed at someone whose name I can't remember...
ZenGrouch
www.bushfuckedus.com
Wilber, "hate and sick comments?"
Obviously YOU haven't been to a
McCain/Palin rally! Shouts of "kill him","terrorist","social-ist", and on and on...but isn't free speech such a wonderful thing?
As for Jr/W./The Decider-in-Chief?
NaNaNaNa NaNaNaNa HeyHeyHey
GOOOODBYYYE!!! YEAH!!!
btw, ZenGrouch, I checked your site! What a blast! I loved it! But
it is like a 'time-capsule'. Why don't you update it? With all the
bullshit that Bush and his henchmen have pulled off in the past 2 years, you won't 'want' for
material.
Hey Bill, check this out.
“s”
Umm… I guess the context would be that Bill basically claimed that people who hold to their faith have some sort of mental problems… I merely pointed out that ALL evidence is viewed with a slant toward one’s current position and that one must apply a form of “faith” to fully accept any events that they did not witness happening firsthand. Evidence is purely speculative and subjective and can only be confirmed if one first considers the implication to be true. Evidence of environmental effect is the only way to detect an x-ray. You cannot refute any god’s existence without giving “sincere” consideration and testing of the theory. (which would require sincerely praying to see if there is an effect) Prior to our proper recognition and interpretation of the evidence we did not even know that x-rays existed. Testing had to occur. In this same way is it not possible that God exists and that some recognize the evidence of His existence while others reject that evidence. The answers for the advent of life (abiogenesis) are mere conjecture. No one witnessed it firsthand nor are they able to. There have been some weak claims made but truthfully it takes great “faith” to believe such theories. The evidence of extreme complexity in design is very apparent when we consider all of the forces that govern the stability required for everything from atomic, subatomic and molecular bonding, to celestial movements and formations. There are “true” physical laws that exist and “govern” such things. Why? As far as stem cell research… I find it amusing that people are so consumed with attempting to live forever or at least moving in that direction. We seem to create 3 new problems for every one that we solve… Because I KNOW the flawed nature of men I do not willingly place too much trust in their latest, greatest achievements… when one does not place a high value on human life in any of it’s presentations (fetus to aged) then it is no big deal to sacrifice that life in an attempt to extend or improve their own. I find it repugnant that the type of experimentation labeled atrocities when they occurred in Nazi Germany under Hitler are now hailed as great research and discoveries in the name of science. Selfish “death-fearing” people will always support stem cell research… whatever it’s moral or tangible cost might be.
Now we wait for the lawsuits to tell us who we actually voted for when we chose the best man. Shakespeare was right...
Here is some artsy brain candy for those of you who ain't afeared o' that werd 'artsy'; brain not required, it all comes with poptop mind openers.
The ever changing, first class website of Obama supporter Lou Reed. Its not your typical top down left right website: its fool proof.
If you liked that, you'll like this
:
Velvet Underground - Venus In Furs
Here is Nico.
This is an excellent tribute to one of David Bowie's inspirations, Syd Barrett. Yup, that date is probably right. DB looks so young in that one.
UFO = Ultimate FreakOut
Here is a true story, from before when the lamers began to conquer by dividing. That 1st picture is an original advertisement poster... mmm.
In just the same way that I would not nor do I discard ALL of science based on the atrocities that have and do occur in the name of scientific advancement it would be and is equally foolish to discard all faith based on atrocities perpetrated throughout history by men in the name of God.
Wow Victoria what an excellent example of ignorance. Kids, this is exactly why you shouldn't flip off rude drivers.
PS - about Victoria's Dominic - make sure you vote on his page!
The catch 22 for faith is this: you have to make a sincere attempt when you approach it... doubt undermines faith so you cannot truly test it unless you let go of the doubt or skepticism which is virtually impossible for some... especially when you consider that there are several possible faiths. If one choooses not to try they should still not comment on that which they do not/could not know.
Well then it seems we agree. I think I already explained that to me, someone that says they're absolutely certain there is no God are as extreme to me as religious fanatics. Although I tend to lean to their position (atheists and agnostics) because I guess there are more proofs against the possibility then proofs for it.
But I don't think you can compare "atrocities" done in the name of religion and in the name of science. There are no real collective atrocities done in the name of science (except some, but we're not talking about medecine then, rather about technology, and more specifically military technology, which is not the subject).
But there were huge atrocities commited in the name of religion. The Nazis, which you cite, you can't say that it was in the name of science, it was in the name of religion. The people that followed them and their collaborators all around Europe believed that it was good because it was in the name of religion.
Anyways, I'm betting on something. One day, when the discourse is so much dominated by religion that it makes you want to puke, you'll understand - if not already - that all this has nothing to do with religion. All this discourse in the US is part of something else. You'll find the same discourse in Europe (which happens to have immigration problems with mostly muslims, how convenient..) and also in the ME, where dictators need their people to forget that they should revolt. There is only one thing in common between three continents : create a common enemy to have a 'nation' come together on some sort of fictional set of values, which they don't even bother to apply on themselves (leaders). It's as old as the earth. Otherwise, leaders would be fucked, frontiers would be fucked, and true globalization would actually mean something.
Have you ever noticed that the most patriotic people / religious people are the ones who believe in a common enemy, thus, who will look more towards their leaders for defense or guidance ? I'm not a very patriotic person all the time (like in a fanatical anti-syrian/ anti-Israeli/ anti-everything lebanese kinda way), but I felt very strongly about the war with Israel in 2006 and after. 'I had the same common enemy' (whereas the lebanese have not much in common as a people, really, except for love of nature, music, food and a high degree of stupidness).
Also, when there were extremist muslim attacks in Beirut and against the army, I held on very strongly to my christianity.
At the end of the day, people have no clue, and they need to hold on to something. And politicians smartly use that to drive you to let them do whatever they want to do. That trick is as old as the Earth. And good for them, after all, they're smart and we're stupid. That's why I want to be a politician :)
I'll get everyone to do what I want.
So eventually, I think that a true 'believer' should be able to accept different traditions, different gods, and not feel about it as a competition, as long as their freedoms are not threatened (which excludes minorities in the ME :P)
S.
Wow Victoria! I can't believe that 33% of the people who read that article actually liked it. Thankfully, over 66% disliked it so that tells me the majority of our population is sane. But there's always that pesky one third.... :)
Some people are so over the top and go out of their way for the wrong things and wrong reasons, in my opinion.
I believe in God but fault no one for not. I don't love Bill any less because he has questions about religion and is doubtful if not adamant that there is no such thing as God. It's just hard for me to believe I'd be nothing more than fertilizer after I die. I look at it this way, I have nothing to lose by believing in God. Can you imagine after you die, being guided through that white light and seated in front of your maker to explain why you didn't believe? What are the consequences? Are there consequences? Oh that's right, the Bible says so. Or how about not even getting to see God and being confined to some area that's ok (at least it's not hell, since you never committed any crimes or were awful to others), but you were separated from God's love/glory? If after I die and I do in fact, become nothing more than fertilizer, I have lost nothing because I will never know. However, if I don't believe, and there is a God and Heaven, I could possibly have everything to lose. Well, less to gain the way I see it.
I don't speak in tongues like some posters here do, but I feel I get my point across to most. At the end of the day, to each their own.
Tanya,
100% agree with you! It is nice sometimes to agree. :)
I don't want to think that all I've gone through in this life was for nothing!
Tanya,
I'm actually not sure whether I believe or nor, so I stopped wondering a long time ago.
So here's the story that comes to my mind when I think of what you think.
François Mitterand (ex-french president now deceized) was atheist. When asked what he would like to happen if he realized that God existed, once he was dead. He replied that "God says 'welcome'.. Or something like that.
Point is let God take care of that :) he can forgive an non-believer, and he's above us, isn't he ? :)
S.
Hey Wilber! Yes it is nice to sometimes agree and thanks for letting me know you agree with me on this one. ;)
S. :)
I've thought about the whole "all forgiving" God, but think that's kind of taking the easy way out, or it's kind of a cop out. Then why should anyone believe or put in an effort to learn about/know God if he's going to be all forgiving anyway. I wonder how much of the responsibility is on us to learn, feel, hear, believe in God? His power, His love, His mercifulness? I willfully want to believe in God (at least a higher power) based on my own personal experiences. It's like some people are open and some are closed. Some people see dead people, some people don't. What's the difference? People see what they believe or believe what they see. I feel like I should be accountable for my life (even though I do believe I am here for a purpose, ie God's plan). I don't think I should lay all my shit on God's lap just because he's supposed to take care of us. I'd like to believe we are here to learn some lessons and learn from each other. I welcome our differences as much as our similarities. I celebrate Wilber!!
I gotta run. I have class in a few minutes. Will be gone for 4 hours so don't miss me too much! (wink)
P.S. What happened to Jag aka Bowie kitty? He/she was so cute!
Aaah, the whole concept of winking has completely changed for me since the day I saw that Sarah Palinf of yours lol
Tanya, it's not laying shit ! You get to be cool with people and treat them properly, not steal, not do all kinds of Bullshit. I mean I guess I think we don't need someone telling us that killing someone else is bad, or taking care of people who need you is good, so we can do it anyway :)
Bowie is in a house outside of Paris (where I live) so I'm going tomorrow to see this other kitten (same : friend of friend, it must be the season) whose house is right next to my place, it's just more practical. But I'm not sure I'll get it, I want to see it first.
What class ? :P
S.
S.,
I am playing catch up, not enough time to amuse myself here and do my 'real time' (pun?). So this is in response to stuff you asked a while ago.
As far as I can tell the nature of democratic politics is a lot like rugby. There are rules, which the players break as much as possible without getting caught and if caught, penalized. There is a code of honor amongst the players, not to complain to the referee when they have been violated, up to and including permanent maiming injuries. Also the players must always 'maintain an even strain' and play injured, otherwise they are considered nancies and may get dropped at the end of the season. If they whine enough they might get some debilitating injuries from their own team.
Rugby is a sport that requires intense training and a certain aggressive mental attitude: death may occur in every match. Get over it, the only thing that matters is the final score.
Like judges, the referees call penalties when they see them and are not afraid. They are sort of like the shotcallers for the rabid audience, that is to say, the public. Excluding being co-opted by death threats to themselves and their families, most referees are corrupt anyway and many of them are not even being paid off by the teams that are on the field.
The UN works the same way as the judges. You should visit Las Vegas: just don't touch anything on 'the floor'.
The game is played seasonally and on season calendar appointments. Off season and between games the players train their asses off and socialize amongst themselves, trying to know their opponent's weaknesses and to psych them out.
And also to heal their injuries, and to plan and carry out their vendettas. This has been recently and adequately demonstrated by President Richard Nixon and President The Clintons.
Winning is everything, which is why the fans are rabid; they are all betting on the outcome.
Rugby is an organized riot in which the individuals with the most stamina, strength, agility and realtime organizational ability beat the crap out of everyone who gets in their way. Its just like combat, only no combustion weapons are allowed.
For those asking why I didn't mention knives, in rugby, knives are called cleats. Their dimensions and firing capacity are strictly regulated.
Politics is high stakes chess for aggressive gentleman (old guys).
The only real difference between rugby and politics is the definition of what kind of cleats are legal.
So S., as far as I can tell, thats how it is done all over the world. From what you have said I figure the game rules vary only by the uniforms, technical dimensions of the field, and again the definition of what cleats are legal (if caught); and what the fans like for refreshments.
Each scheduled event is just a game; each team has to go the season, and if we are doing well we plan into the future to hold the cup. Fuck the title, the cup is all that matters; the title is just there to psych future players.
I guess thats every contact sport. I played rugby, hockey, football, soccer. Not only is rugby the most intense physical beating I ever took, many times, on and off the field but the loyalty and comradery was also the most intense.
I never played cricket or that game where the teams have a net on a stick and a small ball, then chase each other around the field like loonies pretending to smash each other's heads while trying to get the ball. Thats because I went to public school, where the game was to get through the day without being mugged, stabbed, shot, raped, or getting detention.
After high school its not so bad.
So to Sarah Palin's question "what is the diff between a hackey mom and a pitbull?" it is not what she said. There are several correct answers, none of which will be found on Jr's multiple choice "no child left to apply logic" mental crippling without cruelty pogram against the real America.
The correct answers are, and partial answers are accepted:
1) What the fuck is hackey?
2) Only wusses on farms put lipstick on pigs; that went out when back seats were invented.
3) I can kill my goddamn dog, anytime, for no reason.
4) For 3 million dollars I can kill a hackey mom on international TV and walk.
5) (Translated from recent S. Korean comm intercepts) Stupid round eyes, just plain stupid. Look children, that is what happens to you if you don't obey your mother and me! So pay attention to us or this will happen to you!
Victoria
Something about "Dominic's post".
astroturfing: ...a neologism for formal public relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create the impression of being spontaneous "grassroots" behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual pushing a personal agenda or highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research.
I found it improbable that a person of Dominic's seemingly diminished capacity could spell so well and have such correct grammar, let alone operate a computer. I think that this "discoursing" is really enemy propaganda - astroturfing - from those who have a material stake and no rational defense.
Someone like religious organizations that sell promises they can't keep.
I have no beef with the spirituality of individuals, I believe that it is an aspect of the fountainhead of creativity.
I have a major grudge against any criminal who would steal and claim credit for these great gifts. Those who would use their religion as a shield against reason are full of crap.
Tanya, you I and 'Dominic' are the only ones who voted. I computed the % hits to prove this.
To any nonposting nonentities listening, thats religulous. What else you got?
Lets ask Prometheus, or the Promethians.
Barack Obama won the presidency and the dems have a majority in both the senate and the house. My, how angry we are!
After all the jacks are in their boxes
And the clowns have all gone to bed
You can hear happiness staggering on down the street
Footsteps dressed in red
And the wind whispers mary
A broom is drearily sweeping
Up the broken pieces of yesterdays life
Somewhere a queen is weeping
Somewhere a king has no wife
And the wind, it cries mary
The traffic lights, they turn, uh, blue tomorrow
And shine their emptiness down on my bed
The tiny island sags down stream
cause the life that lived is,
Is dead
And the wind screams mary
Uh-will the wind ever remember
The names it has blow in the past?
And with this crutch, its old age, and its wisdom
It whispers no, this will be the last
And the wind cries mary
The Wind Cries Mary
Hello, tomorrow!
Pick this up:
Room Full Of Mirrors
Hear My Train a Comin'
Pali Gap
Rainbow Bridge
I wish he could be here today.
George is a hippie?
S. Name your cat "Jimi" if it's a male. :)
George, thank God for S. She translates your posts for me!
P.S. Great minds vote alike. :)
HAIL TO CHIEF OBAMA!!
Hippy for President! Beware The Deep Hole!
Thats for Abbie you motherfuckers! This is the end of the Party of Death, now for the Party of Life!
Martin Luther King
The Lube is out and the handjobs have started but waiting for the climax. MSNBC has already started.
S.~
Just for the record, Sarah Palin is not and will never by "mine" and I'm not letting her take my winking away just because she sickened others with hers. haha....(wink, wink)
What I mean about "laying shit on God's lap" is that some people use God and their religion as a crutch. So much so that they never learn how to walk on their own. "Oh, my car payment is due and I have no money but if I pray to God hard and long enough he'll fix it for me by raining cash down from the Heavens." etc, etc.
As for the Ten Commandments, I totally agree with you. The Ten Commandments are just plain ol' common sense. Shall not kill, um, duh! :) Unless we're talking about a psychopath.
You live in/by Paris? How cool. I'm half French, but live in MN. Go figure!
I hope you like the kitty you'll be visiting tomorrow. Keep an open mind. :)
I'm taking courses to earn my real estate license. I'm pretty excited about it. Lots of first time homebuyers looking for those good deals now that the market has crashed and we're starting all over again.
I'm waiting for Obama to come on tv now to make his acceptance speech. I'm tearing up cause I'm so happy.
Ahaha hahaha
Mitch Mitchell
Noel Redding
Buddy Miles
Billy Cox
Kids who changed the world, permanently
Peace In Mississippi
Machine Gun
Never give up! Never surrender!
Congrats Bill. Obama is the preseident.
Oh, Billy Boy's got that Lube out and going to town right now!
Obama is the President-elect! I'm so happy! I can't seem to get this silly shit-eating grin off my face! [Hell, I don't even have it in me right now to be mean to Wilber...now that's HAPPY!]
cat,
You're on the wrong blog. Go the the Elitest blog and you can be mean to me.
HaHa funny,Wilburrrrrr! Hey! I've been meaning to ask you. Are you any relation to 'Mr. Ed'? Cuz you sure act like a horses ass! HaHaHa
See? I'm still happy! ;)
Oh! And wilburrr? YOU wouldn't know
'elitist' if it came up and BIT you in your horse's ass! You can't even SPELL it correctly,'Mr.Spellchecker'
O guys how I missed you all, very busy couple of days. Wound up doing some serious campaigning for our president! Just back from the rally, climax doesn't even come near, it was like having 50 orgasms one after the other. I have been crying tears of joy the last few hours. Half of grant park is back in my house,plus I got engaged tonight (sorry Bill). Boyfriend proposed before the rally, because he wanted to make sure we started this new era together. What a little sweetie, in m y office trying to get some privacy so I can call my parents.
Well, excuse me! Was trying to have some fun but no, you people don't know how.
My bad, mispelled elitist. I am grounded for 2 seconds...grounding over.
Oh, and, Mr. Ed is my roommate.
A horses ass is much better than a jackass!
Good, now that Katie is out of the picture, I have Bill ALL to myself! Hey Katie...CONGRATS on your engagement! TWO good things on the same day...how can you handle that? :) I still have stray tears falling because I'm so happy Obama is ours for the next four years.
Wilber, I understand your disappointment (knowing you were for the other guy) but Obama will help steer America back in the right direction again. You're just a little too bitter (handjobs?) to see it right now. You big horses ass! :)
Chris Matthews is probably still doing the handjob thing!
Oh, I'm not disappointed! I will be watching so close next year!
Dammit Wilber, the last thing I want to visualize is Chris Matthews strokin' his you-know-what.
I'm turning in for the night. Until we bitch again.
Oh and if I have sex dreams about Chris Matthews tonight, I'm coming after your horse's ass, Wilber!
Thanks Tanya,take good care of our sweetie.
This had been the best day finally kicked everyone out of the house, my bff's are outside on my patio giving my boyfriend the you better treat her right talk. I feel like a fucken retard wearing the ring.i wish everyone would go home.
I am so excited, hope lives.
Wilber, I too will be watching very closely from now on, because that's how this cluster fuck happened in nthe first place, by us not watching what our goverement is doing.
At least we are on the right track.
I am very moved by this, it is like several cycles of my life are coming to a successful conclusion.
I hope that Obama brings closure to the issue that Benjamin Franklin worried would tear the nation apart. I hope that people of all races will embrace what makes us alike and put aside their bigotry, not only in America but around the world.
This may be the biggest makeup kiss in the history of the world.
If we all share out national pride together, as they did after WW2, then we can be a kinder, friendlier, more supportive community to each other.
Like before Viet Nam, Nixon and the divisionist policies of the last 40 years.
Inside America, an iron curtain is falling.
Now that the great American dream is over, the great American reality can resume. Every ending is a beginning. I will wake up tomorrow with a sense of possibility that Dick Nixon and his secret police took from me a long time ago.
But this is not a victory yet. At this moment the RNC - ungracious losers and cold pricks to the last - are conspiring to usurp. If they don't suppress us completely and immediately wilber, you are going to see a world you haven't imagined.
I promise, its going to be great!
That said, I am positive that plans are being made to prevent this and ultimately to regain the control they just totally lost. Maintain the status quo - their foot on our necks. if you taste freedom you won't accept this again...
But the convicted sociopathic serial killers G Gordon Liddy, Oliver North and Admiral Poindexter are neither dead nor in isolated confinement. These and other cold blooded agents of despotism don't give a fuck about anyone.
I don't want to see a repeat of 11/23/1961 but this is almost the same show. 1968 was far worse because in '61 no one had any idea that such things were possible. Now we all know, so if such things happen again the outcome will be much more violent and immediate.
I suggest you all learn to shoot and start getting involved in grassroots Obama programs. There is safety in numbers & if the shit goes south you won't be alone.
tanya said...
Oh and if I have sex dreams about Chris Matthews tonight, I'm coming after your horse's ass, Wilber!
Now that's funny!
See, that wasn't so bad!
Did you see all the red states? They aren't on board yet.
'Peace through superior firepower' - Ronald Reagan.
HelloooOOoo all :)
I just found out, congrats you guys !
Will check your posts later, I need coffee (several sleepy winks lol..)
S.
PS Can he be our president too ? Lol
I was just watching when the two families joined in after the speech in chicago.. You can't help but think.. 50 years after Rosa, MLK... You can't help feeling emotional, even if you're not american. Eventually, the one thing that everybody tried to silence during this was the race factor, but now, it's like you can't refrain. You've actually voted for an afro-american as president, 40 yrs after the civil rights movement (which is a record time for almost any country on this earth!)...
AND he's smart and good-willing..
Sincere congrats.
I'm still looking for the % excluding the EC. I still can't find them, if someone could tell me.
S.
Bill,
I would like to introduce myself before you read what I have to say. I am an international worker here in the United States and hence didnt vote (because I cant, If I could it would be for Obama)and I have been watching your shows on HBO quite regularly.
First off, I would like to congratulate you for a great job that you have done with the show.
And also I do agree with a lot of your point of views.
BUT
I feel that your rhetoric sometimes is very insulting to John Mccain (200 year old man, he might die tomorrow, .......) and well ofcourse your bread and butter Sarah Palin.
I write to you because I want to take you seriously when you present the views that you do on your show but when you cross the line of decency as frequently as a human blinks in an hour you disappoint me. Yes you could say that this is the "Entertainment" factor but please Bill you should have more class than making cheap jokes about the Republican candidates.
As I said before I would vote for Obama because of his Financial policy, International outlook (Diplomacy first) and an overall sense of levelheadedness but simultaneously I would show some respect for a 72 year old man who has served this country and who has the experience to back his campaign up even if I disagree with him.
Sad to say but you are just as extreme as Bill O Rielly sometimes maybe even more since you are on HBO and get to be provocative.
I do like your closing statements, well most of them and I want you to be a serious, respected politically aware advocate but I have to remind myself time and again that you are a comedian and maybe I am expecting too much.
- Ayush Sharma
Ayush.Sharma@capgemini.com
540 466 0531
Hi Bill,
Just a note to say HOORAY, and a bit of thanks to you in your part to open up the minds and hearts of America. Julie
S.
EC vote is 338 to 163. Voter turnout is estimated to be greater than 64%
Now that this is over I would like to say that I have been helping some really old people I have known for about 20 years. After the RNC convention they asked me what I thought of Sarah Palin.
They have not spoken to me since. I usually speak to them 2-3 times a week so they will turn to dust before reaching out to me for help again.
As they said good bye they made it clear that they would never vote for anyone who was not of their race and would prefer a candidate of their church as well.
Thats the kind of fixed, stale closed mindedness that Sarah Palin's campaign style targeted, thats why I was disgusted with her from the first words out of her mouth, and thats why the young voters turned this election for Obama.
Most young people don't have stale closed minds and the ones that do don't vote yet, unless some criminal fuck like convicted felon Tom Abramoff, a bribe dealing friend of McCain and the false church leaders of America. You'll have to Google them, there is just too much on this topic.
I would like to propose a law: all lobbyists and politicians convicted of fraud and bribery should be hanged for treason, on national TV - and not pay per view, on every channel to drive the point home.
I would like to propose a law: Those collecting social security have not right to vote. Since kids can't vote and its their future, why should old farts who already had their? Besides, then the oldsters will be nicer to their kids.
Getting loved in big gushes sounds awesome, great, sexy and amazing… the balancing act is to stay high when you are alone and sober. Living life famous and stoned by satellite makes it harder to appreciate the subtleties of the last curtain call. No, we don’t know for sure what happens after death, but logical deduction lit the first light bulb, so why should the afterlife be off limits?
You always sound impeccably ready, and I bet you never forget your Rizla. To pack intelligently for the ultimate adventure, it makes sense to be prepared to travel light. This doesn’t mean going straight and under the radar. It might be enough to acknowledge the situation well in advance, experiment with intervals of sobriety and get reconciled with the notion that if you don’t have it, you don’t miss it. When the time comes and there’s nothing left but a frazzled psyche, if you can be open and receptive, there is a delicious emotion ready and willing. Faith and trust reach out to this. Believers know this instinctively, while some have refined the feeling by distancing religious dissonance.
Can we distill spirit from myth? After ‘bending the arc of history’, anything seems possible. I don’t know how yet, but I have faith.
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Obama is rightfully confident his grandmother is watching him. I’ll go further and add that her timing shows her love for the cause. It’s also interesting he brought up getting a puppy for his girls, refreshing the dialogue of animal awareness. Knowing Ingrid, we’ll capitalize!
George said:
I would like to propose a law: Those collecting social security have not right to vote.
Tanya says:
George, don't go there. Don't go backwards. My parents are 56 and 61, they are hardcore democrats. Old people get a lot taken away from them because of their age. Some of it justified, some of it not. Everyone (18+) has a right to their vote, dammit. As for the kids who are too young to vote, yeah, they are too young to vote for many reasons. The parents would TELL their kids how to vote, for one example. It would just be a fucking mess if we had toddlers waddling in to vote. Older? Ok, let's talk about middle school age. They don't know what they fucking want anyway unless it's sex, drugs, and alcohol. Most kids aren't taxpayers either by the way.
George also said:
I would like to propose a law: all lobbyists and politicians convicted of fraud and bribery should be hanged for treason, on national TV - and not pay per view, on every channel to drive the point home.
Tanya says:
Another backwards move. We are not a barbaric country as a whole. I have to respectfully say, I'm so glad you are not our President. My youngest brother who was 23 at the time, hung himself in Dec. 2005. He was battling mental illness and self-medicated with a mix of drugs. Suicide is such a painful thing to deal with when you're the living. When I hear or see anything related to "hanging" it sets off so many emotions. So, I, for one, have no desire to witness anyone's life choked out of him.
Your folks ok, perhaps a competency test. This is a proposition, to be refined or disgarded, as lame as some of the ones I voted on.
I won't budge on political corruption. It is treasonous and crippling to the democratic process, and it got us here. You pick the permanently devastating form of punishment. Some forms of punishment are intended to deter those thinking of committing them and are therefore extremely effective in reducing both the occurance of the crime and also the frequency with which we have to use that punishment.
Since they intentionally jeopardize our way of life and under the current corrupt 'buy liberty' judicial system, I have no qualms about throwing them off the boat.
The reason I am pissed is because Abramoff and others like him do their time in in either a hotel or a country. I want him to share the same cells that lesser offenders with no money and influence get, and do the same amount of time.
Surely you can agree: the mandatory minimums for drug dealers are higher than the average sentence a 1st degree murderer gets.
I think this would deter them from dissolving America in their bloated gullets.
Catherine,
You seem obsessed with death.
Modern physics - quantum mechanics - when properly understood describes what you call 'existence' and 'life' as dynamic multidimensional field effects of an underlying causality. In otherwords, everything including your life is a transient illusion and only the underlying causality is real.
To use your light bulb, the light bulb exists before you turn it on and after. Not only that, when it burns out it still exists as it was, just in a different state. It no longer 'shines' eg. conducts current in this 'reality'.
At this time my best model is a 6 dimension vector spaces with 4 4 dimensional tensors; you can invent your own.
I live in the question, so all answers are possible to me.
If you choose to live in any one answer, you give up the ability to receive a better answer. The temptation of 'knowing the answer' is that its easier than thinking. Le Chatelier's principle proves this phenomena in the organic aspects of this quantum flux phase state; through the holographic aspect of quantum reality it can be extrapolated as being true of our thought processes.
I'm holding out for my own transcendence through my own awareness, eg. reason.
Please attempt to understand what I just wrote before you discard it, because it doesn't map to your answer.
If you believe in God, higher power, heaven, etc. than He will be the judge and jury. You will answer to God for your sins Mr. Lobbyist, Ms Politician, Ms Thief, Mr Rapist, Mr and Ms Killer, etc.
If you don't believe, than what does it matter anyway? If we just die and become nothing more than dirt, then who the fuck cares? What do I care if some politician breaks the law? We're all going to die anyway and there's nothing to look forward to afterwards, right Why do people follow rules or obey laws? They can't put us all in prison, right? They're overflowing now anyway. Who fucking cares if Joe the Lobbyist or Joe the Politician campaigns for their own interests or gains? We are all just living from one day to the next until we naturally die or are killed.
Suggesting we hang lobbyists and politicians who've wronged us, on national tv is a very extreme view, in my opinion. And it's crazy. If you're just thinking out loud here and having fun with "what if", that's fine. But if you are really serious, than I'll "hang" with those old people that are blowing you off.
People,
what's with all the sadness and the anger ? Spread the luuuuuuuv, Obama has won :):):)
S.
You're right S! Sometimes I let myself get sucked in and I fight a battle that isn't mine to win or lose. C'est la vie!
Today is a good day. It's the beginning of a new era. Even though the sky here is cloudy at the moment, I can still see and feel the sunshine!
S.
You are right. Don't worry, be happy.
I greatly enjoyed Bill's snapshot of him with Woody and the monster bong, reminded me of good times.
be of love(a little)
More careful
Than of everything
guard her perhaps only
A trifle less
(merely beyond how very)
closely than
Nothing,remember love by frequent
anguish(imagine
Her least never with most
memory)give entirely each
Forever its freedom
(Dare until a flower.
understanding sizeless sunlight
Open what thousandth why and
discover laughing)
by e.e. cummings
Hey guys,
I actually got the cat this evening. Only to realize after half an hour that it had flees and other shit. Freakin' french, you'd think they'd keep a clean cat in their house, but noooooooooo, what for. let's all be dirty [the people who gave it to me]
So I've been running around from the supermarket to the pharmacist to my bathroom where I almost drowned it in shampoo and anti-flee stuff....
Other than that, it's really cute. But it has to stay locked in the bathroom until I can get it to a vet tomorrow, and deal with this shit radically.
S. who's feeling sick from all the weird anti-flee smells she's inhaled for the last 2 hours...
Ah, the joys of pet ownership. The way I see it, you rescued that cat for a reason.
Uh, burning question...is it a girl or boy???
It's a girl. The thing is I'm currently still moving into the house AND looking for a job. So having to deal with this stuff is just not what I planned, but you're probably right. She was saved from something ! Their place was filthy, the husband is a doctor - you'd expect a little hygiene, and their daughter has long hair ! She must be full of flees.. When I called them to warn them, they said well don't worry, flees don't go into clothes or hair !! Euuuh YES THEY DO !!
Anyways, she has blue eyes, and she's white and grey. She's really beautiful and 4 months old. I still don't know what to name her though, she was traumatized with all the showering and spraying since she got here, so it's probably gonna be something like "spooky" hehe.
I'll post a pic soon if you want to take a look at her :) Maybe you can help me with the name !
Right now, she's trying to open the bathroom door lol
Crazy animal :):)
S.
After watching Sarah Palin spitting venom on a local LA station (channel 9) just a few minutes ago, I realized that I'm gonna miss that stupid bitch...
When asked if she has any plans for 2012, she said, to the best of my memory, "Ya' know... 2012, that just seems... years away..."
Dear Bill~ I have to say you always make me laugh--even when I don't want to. And I never fear polarization as long as I have your thoughts to reverberate my own against--you always make me think, as I search for the validity in your message. I just wish you didn't think I was superstitious for being a Christian--it makes you seem judgmental, in my opinion, when I really think that's a way of being you oppose. I think it's neat-o that you blog on blogger--very down-to-earth!
Is it too soon to start asking "What ever happened to Joe the Plumber?"
Proposed new rule: Nobody can say anymore about Obama that he is "a man we really know so little about", like Steve Forbes just did, unless the speaker confesses that he has not read Obama's two books and has been asleep for two years. Maybe there is something else meant by the phrase, like, "He is kind of young", but on its face it is an idiotic thing to say.
Joe the Plumber went the way of all fictional beings, back to the video game Redneck Rampage and sports the slogan 'JoJo Must Die!'
I am thinking about John McCain's campaign manglers. I think they should be glad Obama won coz their careers derailing campaigns is over.
Now it is time to start the Obama in '12 campaign by making sure the next 4 years are good for all Americans, for all the good people everywhere who do business with us - and would like to - and especially hard for all the haters.
Obama & DNC had a huge victory at the federal level but the popular vote was not as unified, and many local contests went to republicans. These hold outs still need to be shown - included. The only thing they have to give up is their 'anti-American' sentiments about their neighbors.
We aren't going to bring over the fascists and the as yet unconvicted political predators, they don't want democracy.
New proposition for a law: Marriage licenses should be issued like dog licenses, on an annual basis. The purpose for this law is to increase tax revenues, to keep marriages fresh, to reduce spousal abuse, to reduce the demand for divorce lawyers, and most important, to annoy people enough so that they realize how ridiculous government involvement in marriage is.
Everyone is free or no one is. The Gay marriage ban went through so its on to the supreme court wicth this bit of discriminatory legislation.
I back the right of gay marriage to protect my own freedom.
In this matter I think that a slim majority of people have shown that they are petty, unchristian and resentful of anyone else having fun, since they obviously aren't having any.
I think the most important impact of the Obama win is that a democrat will be selecting supreme court justice candidates to fill 1-3 seats.
wow i can't beleve what an intellect you are - amazing! you should run for the presidency - i would vote for you - a man with your critical thinking abilities puts me in awe - mesmerizing to hear the word you use just far from your lips - intellect extraortdinar - hey i got better idea forget the presidency i say we build a temple and you can sit there and i'll worship you as a god - you do have a god status about you - well justed wanted to let you know your amazing smart - must be tough to be you among all the ignorance - i feel for you - be strong and keep that wisdom dripping from those lips of your - from one dumb ass to another
Whoknows,
Between sentences, you put POINTS, which look like this : .
S.
Oh, and SPEAK ENGLISH, for God's sake. If the content is as stupid and boring as this, at least let the form be correct so we can pretend we're actually 'reading' something.
"The reasonable man conforms himself to his surroundings; the unreasonable man conforms his surroundings to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." by Unknown
Who knows?
Thank you for considering what I wrote. Your personal attack does not negate any of the ideas I posted; please share your best arguments against these.
I was just sharing my own ideas. Its better than regurgitating memorized answers that someone else fed you, or acting on gut instinct, or believing that you are smart because you got a high score on some tests.
Genius is not a noun or a pronoun, it is an adverb and a verb. "That was shear genius!" is correct; "you are such a genius!" is not. A soldier in combat can perform an act of genius just as much as an obsessed egghead. The people we call geniuses are those whose extraordinary actions changed the world.
All the paper tigers - geniuses at test taking - are posers.
It is better to try to be extraordinary than it is to take any abuse.
I only have one question. What did I say that offended you?
When I was young, I wanted to know love more than anything. For years I was terrified of even talking to the girls I had crushes on. Life took care of that: I got my ass kicked many times in many ways until eventually being rejected by a girl who could reduce my ego to a mudlike ectoplasm was no longer the worst thing that could happen, as I understood it.
I asked all the girls to dance; some said yes, some said no. I asked the ones who said yes if they wanted to kiss; some said yes, some said no. I asked the ones who kissed if they wanted to make out; some said yes, some said no. You perves, the rest is the discretion of a gentleman.
So if anything I post challenges your reality, bring it; we will both grow together from the exchange. Otherwise if you have no logic to compete "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
=)))
To my knowledge the quantum holograph was 1st described Godfrey Leibniz about 400 years ago. He called it the "monad", a term that still applies in physics today. I called it a quantum holograph here because this is a more comprehensible term, but the monad is the "oneness" of all things; I was trying to describe this greater universal theory of everything.
It exceeds all current physics, math and theology; haven't you ever been reaching around in the dark for a candle?
Hey fellow bloggers!
Decided to take a break from LA and since I can't vote anyway I took the week off and went home to Jamaica. So I am writing this from a hammock on the beach with a Red Stripe sweating in the sand, and I can honestly say that this is the first time I have turned my laptop on.
I was however glued to the election like so many other Jamaican's and a surprising number of Americans that were here on vacation. I can fully vouch for Jamaican's being 100 percent behind Obama with one exception. The entire island is HOMOPHOBIC!! As we watched Obama deliver his acceptance speech and he said "gay, straight" all of the Jamaican's in the bar busted out into laughter. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to share.
As well since he won I can finally mail in my US citizenship application, just in case McCain won I had also filled out the renewal for my greencard. Thankfully that can go into the trash and I won't have any need to truly consider any of the country's on Bill's get away list.
On a side note, Chris MacNeil I totally shared your website with some new friend from Italy and Arizona. Loved IT!
...you don't have to pass an I.Q. test to be on T.V. or do stand up in Vagas...
You must be 1st generation because you sure are snider!
Grouch,
No worries, the Sarah Palin wannabes outnumber all the videocams ever made; you'll only see the worst caught on film, and there aren't enough minutes in the 24x7 broadcast schedule to show all of these.
What the? How does one send an inquiry to Bill? No "contact me", or "contact us" on Any of his sites...?
Seeking,
You'll have to ask one of the old white guys who sit around buttfucking copies of Atlas Shrugged.
http://marktwainispissed.blogspot.com/
Mark 2
Do you know anything about the papers Heavywater handled and what became of them?
I'm bored. Send me the most fucked up math problem you have as it fits - forgets - lus naturale -biz-law.
I need some math. man, Gimmeee math!!! I neeeed it! Oh God man, pleease hep me! oh the math.=, the pain! The ansahs!
Hello George,
since you're bored, here's a question to you : what do you think about the media fuss regarding Rahm Emanuel and what do you think of the guy ? (fuss from the republicans in the US, and from arab politicians in their fucked up world).
S.
Cat...
Thanks & 'you right' about the site being fixed in time.
I fired it up before the 2004 election, realizing that the American voter was much more stupid than I had previously thought.
So, I tried to do my bit with humor and insight.
I was even a little disappointed in Bill for believing what they were telling us before the war...
A few weeks prior to the launching of 'Real Time' HBO invited some people into a mock Q&A session with Bill, to try and fine tune that segment of the show, before going live with it.
For one of the sessions, I was sitting in the front row, within staggering distance of the podium Bill was at. If I would have been *really* drunk, I could have stood up, fallen forward and toppled the podium on top of Maher, but I wasn't that drunk.
After the warm up directors, producers and whatnot, Bill took the podium with a huge ass digital clock ticking in the back, so he could measure his timing, I guess.
One of the first things he did was to explain some of his new stances on things since his show P.I. was cancelled. One thing being that he was now *for* the illegals.
When asked why, he just said something like, "Uh, I don't know, I just changed my mind." Making me think that HBO had done some viewer polls, and Bill sold out. Not that I blame the guy, with what they're paying him. And maybe he really changed his mind on the matter, and seriously doesn't know why. Maybe he was more tuned up than I was.
...whatever
When someone asked him what he thought would happen when we invade Iraq.
He gave the party line about how they'll throw flowers at our feet. Just then a fuse or vessel blew in my brain.
As luck would have it, as my noggin was spinning, Bill chose me to ask a question.
OK, what I meant to say was, "Are you fucking crazy?! Do you really expect us to just bomb the everloving shit out of someone's country, killing many civilians, and soldiers in the process, *THEN* expect the citizens to throw flowers at us when we come marching in to take over?!"
OK, that's what I was trying to say, but I was upset and hadn't had time to formulate my words when I was picked, so I must have sounded like some sort of petting zoo animal squawking something about dead brothers and family members, judging from the confused and slightly concerned look on Maher's face, as he half laughingly said, "WHAT?!" Then without missing a beat, he picked another member of the group, hoping for a more coherent question.
So, anyway, after Bush won the 2004 election, I was so depressed I just couldn't see the humor in anything Bush, and decided to leave my site as it was, rather than come off like a bitter and babbling dim wit, making chicken sounds, when given a chance to actually say something...
ZenGrouch
www.bushfuckedus.com
Zengrouch,
you never believed the WMD theory ? I actually almost believed it at the time, and I'm arab... I actually hoped they would find something when Saddam was captured. I was sick as hell to acknowledge what I already knew, that there was something much much bigger [ Bush's famous constructive chaos plan]. I wish the Irak war was as simple as a war to take down a dictator or stop him from using 'WMD', and that it had no ramifications in the region and beyond.
I knew from the beginning that it would never work, though. That's how arabs are. There are two many different trends, and the country has a huge history of dicatorship. You don't just hand over 'freedom' to people that don't even know it. Eventually, they treat others the way they were treated. 'Democracy' is each people's process and history, you can't just drop it on someone, and expect the system which works in your country (in general) to be transposed to another.
Now, there's only one thing that you missed in your reasoning: you forgot the bad guys in Irak, bush's allies. Those people are just like Saddam. You hand them power and control in a country where they didn't have the right to breath, as shias. Those will do anything to stay in power, just as in other countries that are 'allies' of the US, disguized dictatorships, just as Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. The illusion that things are 'good' in Irak lays solely on their good-will. The day they decide it's to their advantage to turn against the US, should the US really implement a real democracy by forcing them, your military should do the only smart thing they can : cut and run, as Reagan did in 1982 in Lebanon [Maher actually mentioned this on one of his shows, I think]
Sometimes I think that if the US had been smart enough to do only business with those countries, without openly supporting their dicators, there would be less terrorism against the US, and if there were terrorism to this level, it would turn against those dicators in their own countries, and that would be their own process towards democracy.
But people see the US everywhere (multiply reality by a trillion, with all conspiracy theories), so they eventually consider the US as God, and since this God supports their dictators or decides to invade them, they only blame the US. Not their own leaders to start with. In people's mind, the US and Israel are responsible for everything. Their leaders are fine with this, because it keeps them out, and the US continues to feed this hatred. My only hope is that Obama might be smarter than that. Ron Paul once said something like 'you don't impose democracy on people, you just show them how it is here, and let them decide for themselves' I wish he had continued to explain his reasoning, the fact that the US and the rest of the normal world would be a thousand times safer than today.
S.
That was long... Sorry
S.
It's so true, you can't shove something down someone's throat and expect them not to gag.
S. how's your kitty doing, the one you rescued from flea hell? Based on the colors you told me (blue, white, grey), cold colors, I would call her Ice or Icy. Plus, while you were trying to remove her little invaders in the bath, she must've been cold from being wet! Brrrrrrrrrr...
That was my imitation of an Alaskan student hopped up on meth...
Very, very interesting man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
He is an excellent choice. He seems very accomplished and has lots of contacts & experience with the democratic party, the white house and the banking institutions which are the core of the current financial crisis.
His extensive experience with Israel should ensure effective communications in the ME, possibly make progress with the Palistinian and in doing so build some Arab support.
It also seems like Obama is rewarding him for his work in making the Obama campaign a success. If so, he earned it.
“Valentine’s Day is when Dick Cheney fantasizes about waterboarding.” - Rahm Emanuel
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-rahm-emanuel-obama,0,240771.story
But mailing a rotten fish is inconsiderate to the mail carrier. Interesting wit, he'll do well in front of the media.
Now that the race is over, next week I would like to see 'Real Time' shot live from a marijuana club in Amsterdam.
Bill Maher has earned a vacation.
It will be eye opening for some Americans.
George,
You are right Bill does deserve a vacation, but as a devoted follower can't he just do it in California, it's less hassle for the rest of us that would like to smoke with him.
And I can't wait to see Rahm Emanuel I think that Obama picking him has set a tone for the White House, not only will we have a President that sounds like a foreigner but so will his chief of staff. All in all I think that alone will get more people talking to us rather than hating us.
Hahahahhaaa, Valentine's day!!!
Excellent, I'm putting this on my Facebook status !!!
I was watching Al Jazeera yesterday, and I can tell you that : they are WAY starting to whine about this like the deal is done [jewish father who fought the palestinians before the creation of Israel and very pratiquant and outspoken, they seem to prefer the Cheney kinda guy]... As usual, they want everything served on a plate..
SoI'm not sure if it will be possible to build arab support.
To me, it's a misconception, I haven't checked the details yet, but if he was chief of staff under Cliton then he was also involved in Cmp David II, which were the only serious negotiations.
But besides that, and we'll see how it goes, I LOVE THE GUY !!
He seems so smart and outspoken :):) AND GOOD LOOKING lol
I loved the story about the fish, and apparentely there's another one- but not confirmed - that once at a dinner, he was so angry at some clinton enemies, that he stabbed the dinner table with a knife, shouting 'dead, dead'
looooool
Just my kinda guy :):):)
Tanya !!! I wanted to ask you again for help. I'm not sure about Ice or Icy, will think about it but I like names that end with A..
Don't worry about her and the showering... I hair-dryed her :S
And another confession, I washed her again today... :S
At least she's clean as a whistle now :) Plus she really doesn't seem to mind, she purrs all the time :):)
S.
PS I'm watching CNN right now, apparentely Ahmadinejad sent Obama a letter. People, seriously, this is gonna be like the best part of history we're watching right now.. Strategy in action.. I love this
And if you want to avoid failed strategies, all you have to do is learn from the McCain people.
As much as I think Sarah Palin is an alien, I think what they're doing to her is very low.
There's this story about her not knowing that Africa is not a country but a continent. How about people are reminded that she was parachuted there because McCain asked her ? That he's the idiot if she really is what they're describing right now.
Plus, please, let's not forget either that Bush has announced Mandela dead once...
They suck and I kinda feel like defending her. She shouldn't have to go through all this shit after the elections are done.
FLOWER POWER !! :P
S.
I am waiting to see a series of Neiman Marcus commercials starring Sarah & the clan.
Don't feel sorry for her. She made bank through this whole circus and she will definitely milk the publicity to death until even the RNC is sick of her.
She is still the AK governor.
s.
I never believed the WMD story, well, not for more than a few minutes anyway.
When Colon Powell showed what could have been a traveling Taco Wagon, and claimed it was a mobile lab, even he didn't believe that crap.
And when they held up a small amount of powder telling the American public how many it could kill...
...all I could think of was the First Bush holding up a huge bag of cocaine, claiming it was purchased across the street from the White House, with flashbacks of lies about babies on the floors of hospitals.
It was a huge line of Carnie Crap!
By then I knew Bush was a shameless liar, wanting to kill Saddam, to avenge the assassination attempt on his Daddy.
All that's easy to say now, but as you can see from my web site, I believed it back when some of that stuff wasn't too popular.
Check Emanuel's webpage btw, it's brilliant
http://www.house.gov/emanuel/index.shtml
S.
Happy Friday everyone!
I have missed a lot on the blog, I shouldn’t complain but I am so insanely a\ busy I barely get to check my email, these days. Who are the new guys “S” and George? You guys rock. Rahm Enamuel, I have been watching him for some time, really sharp guy, love the direction Obama is already taking. Picked up Rahm’s book The Plan, my house looks like a news stand, I have every magazine with a picture of Obama on it.
S,
Why don’t you call your cat Vic as in short for Victory , not as in where the Brits nip down to have a drink, to honor Obama’s win and to honor it’s victorious escape from the flee infected environment.
Later Katie
Yeah, these "anonymous" people reporting that Sarah Palin didn't know this or didn't know that...the election is over people, let's just move on. She's not my cup of tea, but I don't believe in beating a dead horse. I think the media is going to miss beating up on her and they're making these lame ass statements to keep the fires burning. Ah, there is that blasted "freedom of the press" thing so we continue to suffer with bleeding eyes and ears.
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